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Patio Sliding Door Selection

Hello All,

I need help with the patio door selection. I have 2 of them and they are both wooden and getting old and rotten wood. They will have to be changed/replaced before the winter hits.

I went to home depot and lowes and also got the sales guy to come in and take a rough measure. Turns out that these things can go from $400 to $3500.

Can some one please advise which one to get, a fiber glass, vinyl, anderson, jeld-wen, american craftsman by anderson.

Should I get the home depot in store service or the home depot My project service to install the doors.

Any guidance and help will be greatly appreciated.

A. Spruce
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A. Spruce

First, erase Home Depot from your contacts list and NEVER shop there again. Second, if you decide to shop there anyway, DO NOT hire one of their contractors!!! Here's the thing, Home Depot sells over priced, under quality stuff, and their sub contractors cut all kinds of corners trying to make doing business with HD profitable, so you're not going to get the best door or workmanship for your hard earned dollars paid.

My recommendation would be to talk with and get bids from a few general contractors in your area. Ask them where they buy doors, odds are they are using an actual door supplier and not the local big box. You are going to have a better selection and generally better quality products from specialty contractor suppliers.

As for brands to consider, I can't recommend anything in particular. Anderson products are generally pretty good, though get pricey. I am not a fan of PVC doors because they tend to be very heavy, don't function all that well, and become brittle with age, stick with an aluminum or wood door, unless your environment dictates otherwise.

Re: Patio Sliding Door Selection

Thank you for your reply.

A. Spruce wrote:

First, erase Home Depot from your contacts list and NEVER shop there again. Second, if you decide to shop there anyway, DO NOT hire one of their contractors!!! Here's the thing, Home Depot sells over priced, under quality stuff, and their sub contractors cut all kinds of corners trying to make doing business with HD profitable, so you're not going to get the best door or workmanship for your hard earned dollars paid.

My recommendation would be to talk with and get bids from a few general contractors in your area. Ask them where they buy doors, odds are they are using an actual door supplier and not the local big box. You are going to have a better selection and generally better quality products from specialty contractor suppliers.

As for brands to consider, I can't recommend anything in particular. Anderson products are generally pretty good, though get pricey. I am not a fan of PVC doors because they tend to be very heavy, don't function all that well, and become brittle with age, stick with an aluminum or wood door, unless your environment dictates otherwise.

Mastercarpentry
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Mastercarpentry

Generally I like Andersen best, and JeldWen is very good. Once your price range settles the possibilities you'll want something that blends in with the rest. Fiberglass covers all bases in solid color and woodgrain. Metal-clad does very good and vinyl-clad good. Avoid all-vinyl, it doesn't do well for doors. Wood can be a good choice but it needs regular maintenance (especially keeping any weep-holes clean) and it's not optimum for excessively wet locations.

Part of doing a good install with wood sliders is to seal the door bottoms. My preference here is spar-varnish or an oil based paint, as these penetrate the wood better than other common coatings. The factory may have sealed there or not, but the additional coating never hurts. Normal installs with low prices don't cover this so you need to specify it as part of the install. It will take an extra trip for them (drying time) and a little extra work but it's your best avenue to staving off rot so it's worth the extra trouble.

Never use a 'big-box' contractor for anything. They get paid nearly nothing and have to rush the work to make a profit. That does not allow them to do the work properly and it draws only those people who don't take pride in craftsmanship. We call them 'bottom feeders' for good reason. If you have problems when they're done the store will disclaim responsibility and the guys who did it wrong to start aren't going to be able to fix it. They'll claim they did nothing wrong and the store will back them. The services they offer are cheap for a reason!

Phil

Banterers
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Banterers

You should forget about Home Depot as was stated above, just deal with private contractors instead.

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Alright as you guys stated, I contacted several private door installers and also contacted home depot. Learned that my door is a custom door and not a standard door. This means that the price tag is further up.

They offer products such as Harvey, Alside and so forth. Home depot costs me around 1700 and they are offering Anderson 400, Jeldwen or American Crafts man by Anderson.

Guys please advise, how to keep the cost down as these stores are asking for a 2500 to 3000 for a sliding door.

Mastercarpentry
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Mastercarpentry

You could see if you can order a custom replacement wither direct or through your local lumberyard/distributor. The downside of this is if you make a mistake in measuring, you're screwed. You could close in the opening down to the nearest standard size but that adds work elsewhere, Whatever you do, stay with a quality door or you'll be doing this again sooner than you want. I'd recommend a metal-clad Jeld-wen or a similar Andersen. Those should be one-and-done soc are worth the extra initial cost as you won't be doing them again.

Phil

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would you recommend Harvey or Simonton ? Please advise. Thank you !!

Re: Patio Sliding Door Selection

would you recommend Harvey or Simonton ? Please advise. Thank you !!

Mastercarpentry wrote:

You could see if you can order a custom replacement wither direct or through your local lumberyard/distributor. The downside of this is if you make a mistake in measuring, you're screwed. You could close in the opening down to the nearest standard size but that adds work elsewhere, Whatever you do, stay with a quality door or you'll be doing this again sooner than you want. I'd recommend a metal-clad Jeld-wen or a similar Andersen. Those should be one-and-done soc are worth the extra initial cost as you won't be doing them again.

Phil

Mastercarpentry
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Mastercarpentry

Haven't been here in a few days. I don't know those brands- perhaps someone else does?

Phil

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