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ericr
lost well

I can't find my mothers well, all the pipe is eather under a deck or concrete, I saw on tv where the plumber scoped the drain pipe and they had a sensor on the end where they could use a monitor to find it. My well pipe is 1 1/2 to 2 inch is there a scope that can fit that?

Mastercarpentry
Re: lost well

I'm sure there is, but before spending the money to do that you can find it the old-fashioned way. Locate where the piping leaves the house from the inside and note which direction it goes. Go outside, find that spot and the pipe with a stiff metal rod poked into the ground and keep probing along. Turns with solid pipe will be 90, 45, or 22 1/2 degrees because these are the available fitting angless. When the pipe stops and you hit something solid a couple feet around, you've found the well cap. Mark it somehow or take careful measurements to it from each corner of the house (like a triangle) so that you can find it again without all the pipe-probing.

Underground well-caps are not recommended as they can allow relatively dirty or contaminated surface water into the well; best to build it up at least a few inches above the ground. Most codes now require the sealed well-casing to be at least 6" above median ground level with at least 2' from the edge of the well-pipe to where it intersects the ground be made of concrete, steel, iron, or other non-permeable materials which are safe for potable water contact.

Phil

ed21
Re: lost well

Locate where the pipe exits the house, then a metal detector should be able to locate the well. In the old days they were often quite close to the house. The local building department may have a drawing on file. Phil's idea should work if you're careful. Don't puncture or break any pipe.
The scope you mention is for viewing sewer and drain pipe. I never heard of using it in water pipe.

HoustonRemodeler
Re: lost well

If its quiet enough in the neighborhood, you might hear the pump running.....

Following the electric is another method.

A. Spruce
Re: lost well

Easy, easy, EASY way to find it, use the dousing method.

1 - Find a wire coat hanger.
2 - Cut it just below the hook on one side and at the opposite corner, just before the bend. You should end up with sort of a "J" shaped piece.
3 - Straighten the "J" into an "L"
4 - stand at the kitchen sink, hold the short leg of the "L" loosely in your hand with the long leg of the "L" sticking straight out, level, from your hand.
5 - Turn on the faucet and move your hand closer and further from the faucet, you should see the free end of the dousing rod turn towards the flowing water.
6 - Graduate to the hose in the back yard. Turn on the faucet and let the water run free out the other end. Lay the hose out with straight and curved areas, then walk back and forth across the hose with the dowsing rod, the rod should turn in the direction of the water flow, and as you come across bends in the hose, the rod will follow.
7 - Now you're ready to find the line from the house to the well head. Simply find the entry point of the water to the house and follow it back to the well. You will need to leave the hose running for this to work, as the water has to be moving for it to register on the dowsing rod.
8 - To make the dowsing rod work more easily, stick the short end through a drinking straw, and lightly hold the straw in your hand, this will allow the rod to pivot more freely, giving you an easier read. The rod must be kept level, like a compass, for it to work.

Mastercarpentry
Re: lost well

Believe it or not, I've seen that work! But it doesn't work for everyone, and I'm in that category :mad: My friend Neal and a couple plumbers I know can do this with almost 100% results though. Also seen old men do the more traditional "Y" shaped willow branch dowsing, one located for his grandson in the well drilling business who was known for doing the best shallow wells around here till Grandpa died.

I never had the luck to trace the electrical as it was always buried too deep for my limited equipment to detect, but utility locater services have the tools to do this PDQ and accurately.

Phil

keith3267
Re: lost well

If you can find to wire going to the well by following it from the circuit breaker to where it exits the house, or you may have an outdoor disconnect for the well, you can follow it with a portable AM radio. Put it in the AM band and tune it off station. When you get near the wire, the off station hiss will turn to static and get louder.

Fencepost
Re: lost well
keith3267 wrote:

If you can find to wire going to the well by following it from the circuit breaker to where it exits the house, or you may have an outdoor disconnect for the well, you can follow it with a portable AM radio. Put it in the AM band and tune it off station. When you get near the wire, the off station hiss will turn to static and get louder.

Not everyone has a submersible pump, and the OP hasn't stated whether his mother has an above ground or submersible pump.

With above ground pumps, there will be no wire to the well.

Here's a thought -- I don't know if it will work or not. Go to an auto parts store and get a mechanic's stethoscope. (Instead of a diaphragm like a doctor's scope, it has a probe.) Have a helper bang on the pipe with a hammer. Go outside and probe the ground with the scope and you may be able to figure out where the pipe goes and, like a beagle following the trail of rabbit, find the well.

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