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showmeoz
swapping the position of stove and fridge

My new house has a bit of a flaw in the kitchen appliance layout. The stove is located between the fridge and a partial wall. This arrangement pins the stove into a box-like space with no access to the counter.

Moving the small upper cabinet and rewiring the range hood should be fairly straightforward and the cords and waterline on the appliances are long enough to simply slide them to their new locations. My concern is the safety of having a 220 outlet behind a refrigerator that has an icemaker connection at approximately the same height. Also, the oven will then have the water valve for the icemaker behind it.

Is it safe to leave the appliances plugged in to their existing outlets and simply switch their locations?

Thanks

Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

The only problem might be is that the 50A 4 wire plug might not reach the receptacle.

You can probably change out a 36" cord for a longer one yourself.

Good Luck from Columbiana, Alabama
Maurice Turgeon, http://thesemi-retiredelectrician.com

showmeoz
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

I think all of the cords and the icemaker hose are long enough to simply slide the appliances to their new positions. My concern is the water line on the fridge being so close to a 220 outlet, which is positioned low to the floor so you can access it from the pullout drawer on the range. The 220 plug will then be right at the same level as the water hose connection on the back of the refrigerator. If that's safe then, that's what I'd prefer to do.

sparky1
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

yeah it would be fine. If you have an leak issue of water spraying all over, that would be more of a concern to me than having electric nearby.

showmeoz
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

Thanks, Sparky. That was my main concern. Pessimest that I am, I can imagine the hose from the water line on the back of the fridge spraying water all over the 220 outlet that will be directly behind it at the same level! I guess I just have to make sure that doesn't happen...

dj1
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

I would cover the 220 outlet with something to stop any water in case of a leak.

motoguy128
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

IF it's mounted vertically on the wall and you make sure there aren't any fittings or unions on the water line without abotu 24", you'l be fine. Just make the copper water supply line a little longer so you can have the union for the fridge connection further from the outlet.

A actual water resistant 4 prong connector would be cost prohibitive. It would be some sort of marine or RV connector and probably cost $100 or more.... and might not even be approved for indoor use.

Fencepost
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

FYI, the "220" volt outlet is comprised of two 120V circuits, as measured between each line and ground. The 240V is measured only between the two "hots." So it's really no more dangerous than a 120V outlet in the same spot.

motoguy128
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge
Fencepost wrote:

FYI, the "220" volt outlet is comprised of two 120V circuits, as measured between each line and ground. The 240V is measured only between the two "hots." So it's really no more dangerous than a 120V outlet in the same spot.

Sort of... except that I think they have at a 30A or 40A breaker.

IT's also still a 220V potential between the two legs.

IT's like saying 480VAC 3 phase isn't that dangerous because its only 277 between any 2 legs.

But yes, in terms of water causing a ground fault... it's no different than 120VAC.

showmeoz
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge

Thanks, everyone. That's all very reassuring. Just to clarify motoguy - the water line I'm talking about is mounted on the wall inside a plastic housing (like a tiny version of the laundry room water line). Attached to that "spigot" is a clear rubber water tube that attaches to the back of the fridge. There is no copper involved.

I'm just glad I don't have to move a 220 outlet or a water line!! I can figure out how to cover the 220 safely and I could also make some kind of 'splash guard' over the water inlet to the fridge just in case.

Fencepost
Re: swapping the position of stove and fridge
showmeoz wrote:

Attached to that "spigot" is a clear rubber water tube that attaches to the back of the fridge.

If it's clear vinyl like aquarium tubing (as clear as saran wrap with no reinforcing cords), it's not designed to handle the water pressure and could fail without warning. Replace it with something else.

If it's milky white, that's polyethylene or pex and should be able to handle the water pressure, providing there is a brass insert inside the pipe at the compression fitting at each end (or a shark-bite type fitting).

If it's clear vinyl with embedded nylon cords, that's OK, too.

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