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Jo__S
Porch opinions needed
Jo__S

Our 1910 house had this enclosed/heated room added to the front of the house. It's functional, but looks terrible, and I'm wondering if I should rip it off, deconvert it to a proper porch, or..?

I am also having aesthetic issues with the roofline of the porch. I would prefer an open porch that fits the style/age of the house. Any suggestions?

(If the photo doesn't show, it's also here: http://oi59.tinypic.com/i1egm0.jpg)

keith3267
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keith3267

Can't see the pic on your link either.

keith3267
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keith3267

Belay that, the second time I clicked on it, it showed up. You could keep the enclosed porch and just put on lap siding that matches the rest of the house. The current siding just screams tacky addition. You could also add more windows so it becomes a sun room (and match the siding).

Edit: If you choose to reside, replace that window with one that matches the other windows and add matching shutters.

ed21
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ed21

I agree that I might like the room restored to a porch, but Keith's idea has merit too. As it sets now it's a not very attractive front entry. Even the proportion of the window doesn't match the others. Not to mention no shutters.
I'm not sure what can be done with the roofline, but the hip just accentuates the different low pitch. A gable end with the details matching the detail of the others might help. Some sketches of different ideas might be useful.
Does the old window opening in the house still exist? Are there any examples of the same house without the addition. Was the porch original?
Tha back addition could use some matching siding too.

dj1
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dj1

It's all up to your budget.

There are two things that will improve the look of what you got, if you decide to keep it:

1. Replace the window. If your window is like 24"x36" (6 square feet), a new window like 18"x48" (6 square feet) will give you the same light and will look like it belongs there. Add matching shutters and maybe an awning too.

2. Match the siding.

These two items won't cost you a fortune and when done, will improve the looks of the house.

Jo__S
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Jo__S

I don't know if there was originally a porch - I would have expected it, really, on this style house, and especially since the house faces NW (unusual in this climate.) Perhaps underneath that add-on is the original footprint for the porch. When you go into the ugly add-on, you are looking at what used to be the exterior wall, and yes, it has a large opening where a window may once have been (now functioning as some kind of odd pass-through; probably done to allow more light in after they added the add-on), and also what would have been the original entry door. Hiding under the little deck are some old concrete steps, too; I'd date them to around the 50's.

I agree about the windows; they are all wrong for the house! I also don't think the shutters are needed, or suitable. I'd like to get back to proper windows, with proper casements around them, but that might also involve removing the vinyl siding, which we are not prepared to do yet. The original wooden clapboard IS under there, however, and looks pretty good, where I've seen it. I am thinking to replace that living room window (to the right) with two classic type longer windows...?

Budget is a big concern, but we have skills, so I'm leaning towards removing the hideous synthetic porch/stairs and opening the addon into a true, non-enclosed front porch, suiting the style of the home, which I'm classifying roughly as generic New England farmhouse style. I think that style could be enhanced with the right porch and windows and some hefty curb appeal in landscaping, etc.

That little dark brown back room you can see behind the house is sort-of a sunroom/mudroom, but it was not footed properly, so that's probably coming down at some point.

Thanks, everyone - I really appreciate the opinions.

Jo__S
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Jo__S
ed21 wrote:

I'm not sure what can be done with the roofline, but the hip just accentuates the different low pitch. A gable end with the details matching the detail of the others might help.

I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're picturing here. I think you mean the odd hip-shape to the addition roof? Excellent point, TY! I hadn't consciously realized that until you said it.

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Are there any examples of the same house without the addition. Was the porch original?

Haven't found any, and no - that certainly isn't original. Well, hmm...I actually don't know, now that you ask. I don't think so, peering up above the dropped ceiling in that addition. Doesn't look like an original porch ceiling/roof.. But the house is just a basic L-shape New England generic type, underneath all the bad additions. The front door would have been right-of-center, with a window to the left - before that addition was put on. I'm thinking it could be much more 'charming farmhouse' style with the correct changes...?

ed21
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ed21

I meant extending the roof out to the end (on the left side) to create a gable and eliminating the hip.
It would be something to look at. Just a thought and it's not my money. :)

keith3267
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keith3267

You actually might not be able to remove this addition. If you recently bought this house and did not put a significant down payment over and above the minimum required, then the mortgage company may take action. The reason is that the value of the house was based on $$/sq ft based on other houses that sold in the neighborhood. If you reduce the size of the house, you reduce its value. If you reduce its value, you may be violating the conditions of the mortgage.

Edit: if you just paint the additions to match the siding on the house, you will do a great deal to make them look better. I personally would just reside and put a bank of windows that match the dimensions of the other windows on the house. Three identical tall, thin windows side by side would be a big help. I didn't see an issue with the roof line.

Jo__S
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Jo__S
ed21 wrote:

I meant extending the roof out to the end (on the left side) to create a gable and eliminating the hip.
It would be something to look at. Just a thought and it's not my money. :)

I agree that the hip needs to go.

Jo__S
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Jo__S
keith3267 wrote:

You actually might not be able to remove this addition. If you recently bought this house and did not put a significant down payment over and above the minimum required, then the mortgage company may take action. The reason is that the value of the house was based on $$/sq ft based on other houses that sold in the neighborhood. If you reduce the size of the house, you reduce its value. If you reduce its value, you may be violating the conditions of the mortgage.

Ergh...now that's something I hadn't thought of. Ty...will check that before we do anything.

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