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James
Bad Dry Wall

I have a contractor that is claiming to be done with drywall and paint. The ceilings were sanded to be smooth. He painted the whole interior of the home with a Spray gun and no roller. Is that right? 

The contractor patched portions of the house and framed in two new rooms. From my standard they are unacceptable but I would be the harshest critic as I am the person paying. Does this work meet any level of workmanlike manner in the state of Minnesota?  

I am having trouble establishing workmanlike manner to evaluate quality. 

If he does have to fix it, who pays for all the wasted paint?

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Clarence
Re: Bad Dry Wall

I would say all three photo's show defect that are poor workmanship. Who pays for the fix the person who did the work.

James
Re: Bad Dry Wall

I know some trades have city codes are easier to remody but how do you approch when its a subjective view point? 

Clarence
Re: Bad Dry Wall

The USG hand book gives the level of finishes. Level # 1 & # 2 are basic for fire rating both can have tool marks.

Level # 3 No tool marks and ready for painting.  Level # 4 Residential grade NO tool  or ridges marks ready for paint.

Level # 5 is the highest rating very smooth and no marks.   See if you can find the USG hand book it should help you understand.

James
Re: Bad Dry Wall

Clarence,

I found the had book and some sections that list out the levels. This is a step in the right direction. Thanks. 

I am also trying to put together a visual to support my position that the work does not meet standards. I know drywall is an art, so its hard to establish a black and white position that is has been compleate to some stadanrd. 

HandyAndyInMtAiry
Re: Bad Dry Wall

James,

What did you list in the contact for the contractors to agree to? Did each of them sign off on their part after your looked over each step? From what I see in the pictures, it looks as if the painter did not wipe the walls down good enough before painting. Paint will not stick to dirt or dust. There is nothing at all wrong with a sprayer. In fact, they give a higher quality result. With a few variables thrown in there of course. Like, the size of the spray tip, the cleanliness of the spray tip, the quality of the paint. Never, ever purchase paint from a big box store. That is very low quality crap. In one picture I see tool marks in the sheetrock. That needs to be repaired. Not a huge task at all.

The person that prepped the walls, the mudding, sanding and painting are all responsible. I work with plaster and not sheetrock, so i take a flashlight over the entire wall/ceiling before I even apply the primer. I then sand the first coat of primer and look again for imperfections. I shot another coat of primer, fine sand that and look again for imperfections. The walls in my house look and feel like the fender on your car, nice and silky smooth, with no imperfections.

Prepping sheetrock and Painting a wall/ceiling is not an art form. Any third grade level education can do it.

Quality painting is all in the prep. Never go with the lowest bidder. That does not mean the highest bidder is the best either. Find someone that speaks and understands Engligh and set down a list of standards for each contractor to follow. No one gets paid until you are fully satisfied and each of you hae signed off on their part of the contract. I do no work without everything in writing

Andrew

Handy Andy In Mt Airy NC

James
Re: Bad Dry Wall

Andrew, 

Thanks for all the feed back, I will bring these points to his attention. 

I have attached a few more pictures for refrance. 

Clarence
Re: Bad Dry Wall

 James

That drywall finish would not PASS a level 1 which is the lowest noted in the USG hand book.

I have worked in the plaster trade and have never seen a drywall or plaster finish that bad.

I had labors that could have done a better job with boxing gloves on.

ordjen
Re: Bad Dry Wall

It looks like fiberglas tape was used and the mesh was not sufficiently embedded in mud.

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