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lmills148
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal
YukYuk wrote:

I know of no garbage disposal that isn't fastened in place. Installed dishwashers are fastened in place.

Your quote is incomplete and only part of a sentance, did you want me to type the whole thing for you?that restriction only applies if there are lights and/or other not-fixed-in-place cord-and-plug utilization on the same circuit. or a combination thereof and I think we were talking about wiring a device Try reading the entire section, it hasn't changed at least the last 3 code cycles I see no point to this comment and in future would apreciate it if you refrained from advising me The cord-and-plug attachment of a DW or a GD doesn't matter a, both would be fixed-in-place.Is this your opinion? Neither example would be of issue, even if the DW were a portable one. that would be up to the AWJ

NEC allows the example the OP and Raven gave, no problem with it as I said previously, as long as neither appliance in its instructions/listing requires a dedicated circuit, you have a 20 amp circuit and the duplex receptacle used to split has a 20 amp face. Of course a local rule or ammendment to codes may not.

I can't beleive your arguing this. The NEC is a minimum standard not a guide. Go ahead, put the dishwasher and g/d on the same ckt. I'll come back and fix it later.

Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal
lmills148 wrote:

I can't beleive your arguing this. The NEC is a minimum standard not a guide. Go ahead, put the dishwasher and g/d on the same ckt. I'll come back and fix it later.

Good Call Imills!!!!! A good electrician would never install both on the same circuit even though it is functional and could work. Most of the time the disposal and Dishwasher do not run at the same time but it does not make it safe and legal. Your right the NEC is the minimum requirement.

lmills148
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal
YukYuk wrote:

You both are spouting Opinion and non-existant code restrictions. No reason to discuss further, as Harry claimed a prohibition in the Code that doesn't exist and resorts to personal attacks rather than a factual discussion. The original poster has not returned to the thread, so no reason to continue.

Regarding your Opinions we'll have to agree to disagree.

I have been wrong before, many many times in fact. When I am I yeild. You would make it a lot easier to yeild if you left your criticism at the door. If you have something to show me I will listen. If your post remain as offensive as what I quoted above you'll be ignored. I apreciate those with an opinion or interpratation thats different than mine and I enjoy the debate but theres no need to throw stones.

Is the d/w over 6 amps?
Is the g/d over 6 amps?
if either of them are then wouldn't 430.53 (a)(1) apply.

canuk
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal

Ya know .... it might help those lay persons who might come across this thread to explain things a little more simplier instead of reciting the NEC book verbatim.

Besides ...... wouldn't the local electrical code be the determining factor as to the requirment .... at least that's my experience ?

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal

I also thought this would be put to bed much earlier, being the local code officer has the final say...

bp21901
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal

uuuuhhhhh......
I've forgot, was there a question somewhere that started this "discussion"??

:rolleyes:

JLMCDANIEL
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal
canuk wrote:

Ya know .... it might help those lay persons who might come across this thread to explain things a little more simplier instead of reciting the NEC book verbatim.

Besides ...... wouldn't the local electrical code be the determining factor as to the requirment .... at least that's my experience ?

But Canuk, shouldn't we throw in counter EMF, EMI, RFI, motor start current, peak voltage vs. RMS voltage and the fact that NEC code limits capacity to 50% of ampacity of wiring? Or should we just say to put the two units on separate circuits even if you split a duplex outlet?:confused:
Jack

canuk
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal
YukYuk wrote:

Which have been (gratefully) removed by Administration.

At the risk of this .....

Good one Jack ....... lest we forget ... the right hand rule. ;)

kentvw
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal

They are running backwards????

Turn the receptacle over and reinstall then plug back in. That should fix it.

And also remember that E = MC Squared. If you keep that in mind on your project all will go just fine and dandy.

Oh, and don't forget to check your tire pressure in the morning when it's cool out and rotate them as well.

Hope that helps.

canuk
Re: Wiring an outlet for a dishwasher and garbage disposal
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They are running backwards????

Turn the receptacle over and reinstall then plug back in. That should fix it.

And also remember that E = MC Squared. If you keep that in mind on your project all will go just fine and dandy.

Oh, and don't forget to check your tire pressure in the morning when it's cool out and rotate them as well.

Hope that helps.

yes it does .... old, wise and powerful one. :D:p:D

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