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vikasintl
What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

We finished floor and sub floor and now

Please tell us nails we should use on wall frame as well as on roll roofing.
I have been told 16d common for wall framing ...correct me if am wrong...

Two of the four walls will have dimensional lumber 2x4 at 16" center
and other two will have pressure treated 2x6 again 16" center ..so advice accordingly.
also what type of nails to be used when we put t1-11?

A. Spruce
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

Framing is typically done with a 16 penny vinyl coated nail, aka 16d GVS (Green Vinyl Sinker ). Siding is typically done with an 8d galvanized nail. Rolled roofing is nailed with a galvanized roofing nail of sufficient length to penetrate all layers of roofing AND the thickness of the sheathing.

Question, why the pressure treated lumber in the framing? Will you also be using pressure treated plywood and is the floor also made from masonry or pressure treated materials?

Gizmo
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..
A. Spruce wrote:

Framing is typically done with a 16 penny vinyl coated nail, aka 16d GVS (Green Vinyl Sinker ).

Question, why the pressure treated lumber in the framing? :rolleyes: Will you also be using pressure treated plywood and is the floor also made from masonry or pressure treated materials?

Spruceeeeee you didnt mention using Hot Dipped GALVANIZED or STAINLESS STEEL nails or any other type of fastener used to anchor Pressure treaded woods.Pressure treated wood has "Alkaline Copper Quaternary " ( ACQ-C ) in it the copper eats through standard nails/anchors. :eek:

Georgia Pacific rolled out new pressure treated woods called EcoLife thats not supposed to eat through any type of fasteners. Lets see how long it takes before GP comes back and says there are health hazards with this new products. :rolleyes:

vikasintl
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..
A. Spruce wrote:

Framing is typically done with a 16 penny vinyl coated nail, aka 16d GVS (Green Vinyl Sinker ). Siding is typically done with an 8d galvanized nail. Rolled roofing is nailed with a galvanized roofing nail of sufficient length to penetrate all layers of roofing AND the thickness of the sheathing.

Question, why the pressure treated lumber in the framing? Will you also be using pressure treated plywood and is the floor also made from masonry or pressure treated materials?

SO we can't use 16d hot dipped galvanized nails which are meant for treated wood....? do we have to use 16d gvs only?

the only reason why we are using pt lumber on 2 walls of framing is we have some pt lumber laying around extra from previous job.

but plywood for floor not pressure treated...its cdx exterior or something 3/4 thickness.

on the roof we will be using osb of 7/16 thickness.

A. Spruce
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..
Gizmo wrote:

Spruceeeeee you didnt mention using Hot Dipped GALVANIZED or STAINLESS STEEL nails or any other type of fastener used to anchor Pressure treaded woods.Pressure treated wood has "Alkaline Copper Quaternary " ( ACQ-C ) in it the copper eats through standard nails/anchors. :eek:

If I had, then you wouldn't have been able to post too! :(:p;)

I was giving the "typical" fasteners used. I was unsure as to why the PT was being used and was waiting for more info.

vikasintl wrote:

SO we can't use 16d hot dipped galvanized nails which are meant for treated wood....? do we have to use 16d gvs only?

the only reason why we are using pt lumber on 2 walls of framing is we have some pt lumber laying around extra from previous job.

but plywood for floor not pressure treated...its cdx exterior or something 3/4 thickness.

on the roof we will be using osb of 7/16 thickness.

I would use Gizmo's advice for working with the pressure treated material. Galvies will work for all the framing needs.

I would recommend staying away from OSB completely and opt for plywood instead, it's a better product.

vikasintl
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..
A. Spruce wrote:

If I had, then you wouldn't have been able to post too! :(:p;)

I was giving the "typical" fasteners used. I was unsure as to why the PT was being used and was waiting for more info.

I would use Gizmo's advice for working with the pressure treated material. Galvies will work for all the framing needs.

I would recommend staying away from OSB completely and opt for plywood instead, it's a better product.

Ok so should I understand that for pressure treated studs we should use galvanized 16d spiral nails and for non pressure treated studs (other two walls) we should use 16d vinyl coated spirals?

A. Spruce
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

No need for spiral or ring shank nails, just galvie for the pressure treated lumber and GVS for the plain lumber. You could use galvie for everything, they're just a little harder to drive than a GVS. Not a big deal.

Gizmo
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

Yep Spruce I agree those Galveeee nails can be a real pain driving them especially if there double hot dippeed....ugggg...

A. Spruce
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

Predrilling the plates will make driving glavie nails a whole lot easier if you're having trouble with them.

dj1
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

About OSB: I much rather work with plywood, which is not that much more expensive but much better quality. Plywood has been one of the greatest invention in the construction industry.

Gizmo
Re: What type of nails we should use? to complete storage shed..

If there's going to be a floor that sits close to the ground the moisture under it will break the OSB down pretty fast

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