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kvt2
What hardware for pass-thru slide-up door??

I have spent hours and hour googling and still no luck.
In my new kitchen design, there is a small pass-thru window from the kitchen into the TV room. It is about 18"W by 16"H. The bottom will be flush with the counter top, and there are overhead cabinets on the wall above. (Backsplash space is between 16-18" tall)

I need to be able to close the opening off as the TV room doubles as a spare guest room. Ideally, I would like to finish the "window" opening on the kitchen side with wood stained to match the cabinets. There will be a sliding down-up solid piece door (maybe a cabinet panel) that is mounted more towards the TV room wall side (so that when closed the wall in there looks almost flat, and the opening is recessed on the kitchen side).
The door will lift up into the wall cavity behind the upper cabinet. I don't know what hardware I should look that would handle this door that acts like a window sash.

The appliance garage tambour door style is not wanted - the mechanism is too wide and they are only finished on one side.
Lift-out or Lift-up hardware (at least as googled) is not suited as they are designed to lift out and up in front of cabinets. The other types I come across are more for side doors of entertainment units where the doors retract into the cabinet on the sides - again, not suited.

I know the door will have to be within some kind of guide track set-up - that part isn't an issue - but how do I make it stay in the opened position (preferably automatically!)

I hope this is making sense - think of the old time Ticket windows - where the employee would slam down the door from above to close his booth.

What in the world is the search phrase or hardware name I should be looking for???

Any suggestions welcomed!!
- k

kvt2
Re: What hardware for pass-thru slide-up door??

Thanks, but a full blown hidden window isn't desired, and the shutters is a last resort only - does not fit the design at all ...

The tambour (appliance garage) door hardware (where the door rolls up into) is usually 7" in thickness - too thick for the wall it needs to go in. And the rolltop systems work in an "over-around" type of track - meaning when the pass-thru was open on one side, the tambour would cover or close the other.
Also almost every tambour door kit I saw was only finished on one side, with canvas on the other.

I was hoping someone had seen or was familiar with the old ticket booth type construction.

I will have to rig some kind of track where there might be a small dowel or catch or block that when the door reached the top, it falls back into a groove or something, and to close a slight upward motion first will be needed to set the door back into the straight track again to slide down.

thanks anyway -
- k

JLMCDANIEL
Re: What hardware for pass-thru slide-up door??

Because your door is going up behind the upper cabinet you will want to stay away from anything behind the cabinet that may need to be serviced. You said that you have no problem with a track for what you want. So I would suggest a spring catch similar to these http://www.homewindowrepair.com/spring_catches.html mounted on the side of the door. You can drill a receiver hole close to the bottom to lock the door down and one near the top to lock the door up.
Jack

kvt2
Re: What hardware for pass-thru slide-up door??

Thanks again yukyuk - I will take a look closer look at those options ...
- k

kvt2
Re: What hardware for pass-thru slide-up door??

THANKS JLMCDANIEL -

Those may just do the trick!!

- k

JLMCDANIEL
Re: What hardware for pass-thru slide-up door??

kvt2,
Here's a real nice one I found on line with 3 staricker plates http://www.kilianhardware.com/phelwssprinb.html
Jack

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