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jack hammer
Re: What happened to This OLD House?

I to am dissapointed with the direction of the show. Not only are the projcts high end but, they always have to talk about being "Green" and recycleing. Lets face it, no one NEEDS these huge homes they work on (not to mention the energy they will need to heat and cool them)Very Hypicritical. Also, wouldn't it be "Green" to work with what is already there instead of tearing down a building and reconstructing a new structure. The magazine used to be great, but now seems to be more like THIS GREEN HOUSE. Being green is good but,if I wanted a magazine about being "Green" I would buy one!!!!! I love old house renovation and enjoyed the magazine when that is what it was about.

djohns
Re: What happened to This OLD House?

Yeah , I'm tired of having " Green " shoved down my throat .
And it's only going to get worse . Something tells me that
this shift to high end materials and methods is somehow related
to $$$$$$$$$$ . :cool:

kentvw
Re: What happened to This OLD House?

Goggle "Leeds Projects"

Ernie_Fergler
Re: What happened to This OLD House?
djohns wrote:

Yeah , I'm tired of having " Green " shoved down my throat .
And it's only going to get worse . Something tells me that
this shift to high end materials and methods is somehow related
to $$$$$$$$$$ . :cool:

Everybody wanted to jump on the "Green" ship the last year or so.
I too am worn out with that term.

catm960
Re: What happened to This OLD House?

TOH a great concept. I learned alot from the earlier years. But now it's out distanced me with tools, products and costs the average guy or meduium size contractor wouldn't be able to handle. I have a 100 year old victorian that i am slowly fixing up. I need more shows that talk about those techniques, materials and such. :eek:

catm960
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I am blue in the face with "green":confused:

bevanskya
Re: What happened to This OLD House?

Face it, they've been doing this for about 30 years and it has to be hard to keep outdoing yourself year after year. In some ways I do miss the old show, but money drives these things, and there is more money in new construction than in renovation. But in the big scheme of things, there is still nothing nicer than a 1900's house refitted with 21st century infrastructure. I suspect ATOH was brought in as a means of keeping the flavor of the old show. Who knows, with a shrinking economy, they may find themselves having to go back to the old format as more people become DIY's again out of necessity. At least the big house in Concord required them to refit into the original shell. I guess the part I miss the most is the absence of homeowner involvement except for $$$. They probably had to give that up for liability concerns. In some ways I wish I'd video'd my renovation of a 1910 4-square which I could have sold to HBO as This Old Effing House. The number of nightmare POD (previous owner's doings) events was staggering. My favorite was opening up the backside of a bathroom wall and having several hundred double edge razor blades cascade out from the space below the medicine chest. It would have brought back some of the humor and surprises that are missing from the current series. I guess I also get a bit annoyed at people who talk about their renovations, but who never actually picked up a hammer during the whole process.

djohns
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That's the point . You don't HAVE to outdo yourself . TOH had something good going and chose to morph into something MORE PROFITABLE . Who is paying their bills ? Not Joe the homeowner that's looking for advice on how to repair his plaster wall or rebuild his porch . It's the corporate sponsors selling high end windows and restaraunt quality appliances , etc . They are chasing the corporate dollars .

RST10
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I've really lost interest in TOH and that's a sad thing. I always respected this show, but it's lost its direction. It started with that Megahouse/barn where they brought in designers to tart up every room in the house. What'd that place cost when it was done? C'mon. Now we're deep into what seems to be a season-long infomercial for that timber framing company. All so this rich couple can build a palace for them and their two kids. And the characters I've grown to respect (Norm, Richard, etc) seem to be lead around on a tour.

It's just plain sad.

How about real houses, for real people, where they - wait for it - fix up an old house. I should walk away from these shows inspired to roll up my sleeves and tackle projects on my home. The message anymore seems to be don't bother - tear it down, hire architects, landscapers, contractors, and fill it full of name-brand fixtures. Well - that ain't gonna happen people. I live on planet earth. Don't preach to me about green with that approach. Green ain't tearing down and building new - it's making use of existing homes - you know - recycling.

I'll be waiting when ya'll come to your senses.

Nathan
Houston, TX

kentvw
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I don’t mind the new TOH. I may not catch every episode but I will tune in on a Sunday afternoon if I’m home. I like the Weston project as well. The panels and beams built and cut in a factory and installed on-site are pretty amazing and show what can be done with today’s technology and computer operated tools.

To me; Ask TOH pretty much fills the void for the old shows and the boys use pretty basic tools to get the job done.

Norm’s show shows what can be done with wood in the hands of a master craftsman. I like that program as well but do not have many of the tools used to do many of the projects that he does.

Last year I went to a woodworking and quilt show that was hosted in a history museum in Colorado Springs, CO. I made a bid on an eclectic quilt that was constructed from hand dyed fabric scraps, cuts from art quality magazine black and white want-adds, soda can cut-outs and tarp grommets. I won the bid and went to the artists home in the old part of the Palmer residential area in CO Springs after the show was over to purchase and pick up the quilt……. The streets there are wide enough to turn around a horse drawn wagon…………… When I stepped up to the porch of her home it was filled with whimsical wind chimes and other interesting and artful pieces.

The inside of her home as well was filled with antiques and some very interesting and unusual art work……… She explained to me that they could never afford “real” art work so they made their own. She explained that my new quilt started out as a way to use scraps for homemade post cards and turned into a quilt………….. She won an award for her quilt and I’m the very proud owner of it.

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I guess my whole point is that I would like to see more programs teaching basic skills. I just finished my new office with very nice built in plan tables as well as a new laminated top desk with Craftsman style supports for the legs. I just used basic tools and a skill level beyond basic is not required. Basic tools included; a builder grade table saw. A good electric chop box, a doweling jig, router and laminate bit, drill and bits. It is great and cost a couple hundred bucks for material.

My current project is a re-upholster and refinish a couple of old bar stools for free………..

Take two pennies and hold them together between a thumb and forefinger really tight, Then try and rub them together…………. You can’t and that is me.

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