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mtngigi
Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

I not going to share how long it took me to scrap the wallpaper off, nor how careful I was not to ruin the sheetrock (or is it drywall?). Despite my care, I could not avoid the damage incurred in quite a few places. In some spots, the wallpaper and glue came off like a dream, in others it was a nightmare! At any rate, I did the best I could! This photo shows one of many areas that are even worse than this.

I have been looking at my ugly bare walls for months now, dreading what steps I have to take before I can go any further with priming and painting.

I'm hoping someone will can give me simple and straitforward instructions (I am no do-it-yourselfer) as to what I have to do to get this wall ready for priming and painting.

I have done some research ******, and have an idea, but I always turn to TOH forums for the experienced and helpful people here. I'm doing this alone and I don't have lots of $$ to spend. On the plus side, my kitchen is small and there are only three walls to do.

Thank you in advance for any advice I won't need a degree to understand.

A. Spruce
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

Spot prime the damaged areas with a good primer, preferably oil based because it will cause less raising of the exposed paper. This will seal the paper and keep the next step from lifting it even more.

Once the primer is dry, you can apply a skim coating of drywall topping compound. You're just trying to cover the damage and smooth the area out. Once dry you can lightly sand as necessary, top off any low spots, and you're ready for the next phase.

If your walls are textured, you'll have to try to match the texture. There are many different techniques, depending on the type of texture you have. If they're smooth, then it's a matter of sanding the areas to feather them into the rest of the wall.

Prime the entire wall with Zinsser 1 2 3 (blue label ), two coats over the patched areas at least. Finish with a good quality paint such as Kelly Moore or Sherwin Williams.

HoustonRemodeler
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

The directions above are good except I would change the oil based primer ( a good second choice) to Zinsser Guardz. Guardz is specifically made for this purpose. It paints on easily and dries in an hour. You can then sand and paint and float at will without fear of bubbling up more drywall paper.

Also, repeated thin coats of drywall mud are better than thick ones. Most DIYers use too much drywall mud on each pass.

Hank Bauer
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess
HoustonRemodeler wrote:

The directions above are good except I would change the oil based primer ( a good second choice) to Zinsser Guardz. Guardz is specifically made for this purpose. It paints on easily and dries in an hour. You can then sand and paint and float at will without fear of bubbling up more drywall paper.

Also, repeated thin coats of drywall mud are better than thick ones. Most DIYers use too much drywall mud on each pass.

I am not much on drywall but I just completed a repair just like the pictured wall.I used Master of Plaster I used the Restoration Plaster you can save if you purchase the repair plaster it works very well on drywall It will take about one hour per coat 200 Sq/Ft each coat two base coats one finish no paint primer required, no sanding required and you will get a smooth white finish.

mtngigi
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and sorry for my delayed response.

Is the Zinsser Guardz you recommend water base? I don't like using oil-base anything - it's too hard to clean up when you don't have a lot of room and/or a garage or work space (which I don't)

I have some Zinsser 1-2-3 water base primer/sealer from a previous project - can I use that?

HoustonRemodeler wrote:

The directions above are good except I would change the oil based primer ( a good second choice) to Zinsser Guardz. Guardz is specifically made for this purpose. It paints on easily and dries in an hour. You can then sand and paint and float at will without fear of bubbling up more drywall paper.

Also, repeated thin coats of drywall mud are better than thick ones. Most DIYers use too much drywall mud on each pass.

mtngigi
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

Is there a particular brand of drywall topping compound you would recommend?

A. Spruce wrote:

Spot prime the damaged areas with a good primer, preferably oil based because it will cause less raising of the exposed paper. This will seal the paper and keep the next step from lifting it even more.

Once the primer is dry, you can apply a skim coating of drywall topping compound. You're just trying to cover the damage and smooth the area out. Once dry you can lightly sand as necessary, top off any low spots, and you're ready for the next phase.

If your walls are textured, you'll have to try to match the texture. There are many different techniques, depending on the type of texture you have. If they're smooth, then it's a matter of sanding the areas to feather them into the rest of the wall.

Prime the entire wall with Zinsser 1 2 3 (blue label ), two coats over the patched areas at least. Finish with a good quality paint such as Kelly Moore or Sherwin Williams.

A. Spruce
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess
mtngigi wrote:

Is there a particular brand of drywall topping compound you would recommend?

No, just use any brand of premixed topping compound and you'll do fine. Don't use all purpose or 2-in-1 compounds, they dry too hard and are more difficult to sand.

When using any premixed product, you'll want to mix it up before using. This stirs in any water that's separated as well as "creams" up the compound so that it spreads more easily. If you want or need to you can add just a touch of water to thin the compound down a little, which will make it easier to spread as well. Whenever you add water, use a small amount and mix it in well until you get the desired consistency and workability.

mtngigi
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

Feel free to have a good laugh at my expense. :o

Is the product you're talking about the same as spackle? :confused:

I have DAP "CrackShot" spackling paste ... would that be okay to use?

A. Spruce wrote:

No, just use any brand of premixed topping compound and you'll do fine. Don't use all purpose or 2-in-1 compounds, they dry too hard and are more difficult to sand.

When using any premixed product, you'll want to mix it up before using. This stirs in any water that's separated as well as "creams" up the compound so that it spreads more easily. If you want or need to you can add just a touch of water to thin the compound down a little, which will make it easier to spread as well. Whenever you add water, use a small amount and mix it in well until you get the desired consistency and workability.

HoustonRemodeler
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

The Zinser Guardz is water based.

Use the premixed drywall spackle/mud/compound from the heavy box or in the 5 gallon bucket. They have smaller containers of the same stuff. Don't buy it from the paint section as you'll spend 4x as much. Go to the drywall section of Home Burrito or sLowes.

A. Spruce
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess
mtngigi wrote:

Feel free to have a good laugh at my expense. :o

Is the product you're talking about the same as spackle? :confused:

I have DAP "CrackShot" spackling paste ... would that be okay to use?

Topping compound is specifically for the purpose of skim coating joints, depressions, and large areas of drywall, where as spackle is for filling very small holes such as picture nails. Spackle does not have the properties necessary to act as a good skim material.

Here's what you're looking for:

As you can see, it comes in various types and sizes of container, but they ALL have "topping compound" written on them. You will find topping compound on the drywall aisle of your supply house.

ordjen
Re: Wallpaper Removed-Sheetrock (drywall) a Mess

mtngigi,

Pre-mixed spackling coumponds are not suited for general, large area patching. Stick with the topping compound. It is much easier to sand and remains soluable by water when dry. CrackShot is vinyl based and is difficult to get off once dried. Good drywallers do not even sand their final coat of topping compound, but rather smooth out the edges with a dampened sponge.

When patching textured walls, I prefer the topping compound, as it can be blended into the existing surrounding texture with a dampened sponge. Products such as Crack Shot, if allowed to dry, will leave a distinct ridge which cannot be totally removed with sandpaper. This ridge will show under all but the heaviest textures.

When you do your sanding, use a sanding block. Sanding by hand will tend to leave waviness which tends to show if you are using a glossy finish coat of paint

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