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l.bro
veneer brick

Can I screw in screws into brick veneer? The bricks are about 2" thick. Is there a danger they would split?
Thanks

MLB Construction
Re: veneer brick

predrill a hole then screw into the substructure behind it. if you use an expansion anchor the chances are pretty high that it will split the brick

Mastercarpentry
Re: veneer brick

Thin veneer brick or cultured stone isn't structural and isn't intended to carry any load other than itself. At 2" it might not split if you use Tapcon screws near the center, but only trying will tell. The only safe alternate if you can't do what MLB suggests is to epoxy anchors in place.

Same as with thin laminate flooring you can get a "look" cheap, but it's value is only surface deep and that is why I'm a traditionalist who prefers the real thing. You can't argue with historically proven success but you can make a cheaper product or method and hope it will last!

Phil

l.bro
Re: veneer brick
Mastercarpentry wrote:

Thin veneer brick or cultured stone isn't structural and isn't intended to carry any load other than itself. At 2" it might not split if you use Tapcon screws near the center, but only trying will tell. The only safe alternate if you can't do what MLB suggests is to epoxy anchors in place.

Same as with thin laminate flooring you can get a "look" cheap, but it's value is only surface deep and that is why I'm a traditionalist who prefers the real thing. You can't argue with historically proven success but you can make a cheaper product or method and hope it will last!

Phil

Thanks for your help. I could have made matters worse rather than better. Is brick veneer different from
real brick? What are the differences? When I bought my home and I saw brick, I thought it was brick but I see now it is pretty granular. Does it soak more water?

Thanks

MLB Construction
Re: veneer brick

all bricks are different regarding what they're made up of and regarding how much water can permeate through them. veneer brick can be anywhere from about 1/2" thick up to about 2" thick.

Clarence
Re: veneer brick

The brick maybe what is known as cut brick.
Installed like Stucco joints are cut before mortar hardens.
It is hard to tell cut brick from the real brick by looking at it.
One way is to see how the color matches with the joining bricks.

Mastercarpentry
Re: veneer brick

Standard structural brick measures 3 5/8" wide and can support hanger loads. Properly laid it is both self-supporting as well as tied into the structure wall behind it. If it is not used structurally, it is actually a "brick veneer"; this is how most brick homes are built with the wooden walls being the structural component. Do not confuse that terminology with "veneer brick" which is less than 3 5/8" wide and is not meant to support any load other than itself. Some specialty veneer brick is now just 1/4" wide and is hung on pre-fabbed metal panels.

Based on your description of the brick being about 2" wide I would say that it is some form of veneer brick, but at that width it is going to have some strength so drilling and hanging something like a flowerpot hanger or water hose reel will probably work fine with Tapcon screws. If it worries you, test-drill a brick in the most inconspicuous location you can find. If you determine that the brick isn't strong enough then drill through a mortar joint and into a wall stud as has been suggested by MLB. An easy trick to locating studs in a brick wall is to first find them inside the house, then at a window square to the outside on layout and mark the sill with a pencil- now you can pull the layout from there outside and hit center-stud first time every time.

Phil

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