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A. Spruce
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets
was98strat wrote:

but the professional looking job will be both the neatest and most efficient. tiling first!

What are you basing your poorly formed opinion on? Pre/post cabinet tiling has nothing to do with neatness and efficiency. A professional tile installer who knows what they're doing will provide a top quality job no matter which way the tile is installed.

Efficient? Efficient for whom, the tile installer or the people who have to work over the finished floor? Sure, the tile guy might be able to get in and out faster, but working over a finished surface slows any other trades that must work in the area, not only by the restrictions of freshly laid tile and grout, but they must also now be careful not to damage the floor with the work that they're doing. You're trading labor savings in one area (the tile ) and burning it in another (everyone else ).

dj1
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

I absolutely agree that tiling before or after cabinets is a matter of personal preference, and there is no one right way or one wrong way of doing it.

Personally I prefer to tile before setting cabinets, but that is my choice. There are ways to protect the freshly laid tiles, if needed. That is not a problem.

Others may prefer to fit in the tiles after the cabinets are in, and that's fine too. And making them look professional is not a difficult task.

Fencepost
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

My brother-in-law didn't tile, he poured concrete (colored and stamped) over the wood subfloor. It's about an inch-and-a-half thick. It looked pretty good.

I didn't ask him if he removed the cabinets before pouring the floor. I'm guessing he probably did; that thickness is pretty significant.

A. Spruce
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets
dj1 wrote:

tiling before or after cabinets is a matter of personal preference, and there is no one right way or one wrong way of doing it.

What? You mean it can be a preference and not an absolute? Say it ain't so! :eek: :D

dj1
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

Spruce,

This is still the land of the free, even though many freedoms have been taken away from the middle class.

Still free to tile before or after. Your choice. But once you choose, you must live by your choice. Choose what you like, then like what you chose.

:):cool:

A. Spruce
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

That was actually a joke at was98strat's expense, who seems delusioned that tiling before is an absolute.

dj1
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

Spruce,

I know you were kidding.

I know when you're kidding and when you're not. I can read you like a book...:p

A. Spruce
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets
dj1 wrote:

Spruce,

I know you were kidding.

I know when you're kidding and when you're not. I can read you like a book...:p

Pppssshhhhttt! :rolleyes: I'm not THAT easy! :D:D:D

dj1
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

Spruce,

I'm only using a little psych 101.

:D

Mastercarpentry
Re: Tile before or after installing cabinets

I tile first, but with a few 'twists'. There are usually a few bad or damaged tiles in any given room-sized batch. These work great where they won't be seen like under cabinets, dishwashers and stoves.I like a full tile job because it protects the floor under it from water damage- sooner or later plumbing will leak and I'd rather have it on top of the tile than going into the wood under it. With an 'after cabinet' job you can have a lake up to the thickness of the tile and not know it's there until the cabinets have to be pulled to do floor repairs which will also include some re-tiling where the wood under them took a soaking. If you know the cabinet layout (and at that point you should), you can arrange the tile layout to avoid slivers and noticeable tapers. Then the cuts will all be on the edges and don't call for perfection, as they are hidden under the baseboards and shoe molding adding speed to the tiler's job.

Do keep a few spare tiles on hand for repairs- these things vary from batch to batch so a replacement (if you can find it) isn't going to match well. Accidents do occasionally happen but I won't tolerate workers who don't respect and protect the other trades work- including tile floors. If they aren't fit to work over a finished floor they shouldn't be on the jobsite in the first place! And you've already heard about the dishwasher/ stove issues in an 'after cabinet' tile job- they cannot happen if you tile first!

Now that the full picture is seen, doesn't it make you wonder why anyone would want to tile after the cabinets are in if they can do it first? it may be that there is a 50/50 'opinion' on this, but half of those people are simply wrong and now you know why!:D

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