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bikerchris
Term refering to windows (8 over 1 and 6 over 1)

Hi all,

I was watching Newton (Season 27, Ep 3) with interest as usual and noticed something I didn't understand. At around 13mins 15secs "8 over 1" is used to describe a window, there was also a reference to "6 over 1 windows" a few moments later on another window. I just wondered if this refers to the scale/proportions or something else?

Chris

A. Spruce

I believe that they were referring to divided lights, how many panes of glass the upper panel had over the lower panel. An 8 over 1 indicates the upper pane is divided into 8 sections, while the lower pane remains a single pane.

MLB Construction

spruce is 101% correct

dj1
MLB Construction wrote:

spruce is 101% correct

MLB, there is no "101% correct".

It's either 100% or 110%.

HoustonRemodeler

DJ is 111% correct

A. Spruce
dj1 wrote:

MLB, there is no "101% correct".

It's either 100% or 110%.

Ok I was correct alright, just a little more correct this time than usual. :p;)

MLB Construction

i based my calculation on the the following that spruce said......8 = upper window pane.....50-1/2% correct.........1 = lower window pane....50-1/2%......grand total = 101%

sorry, i wasn't a math major in college

ordjen

But how do I refer to those windows that had a diamond pattern in the upper sash? Do those half diamonds along the edges of the sash count as "one" light each? :p

MLB Construction

***, talk about throwing us a curve ball.......that's a good question and i don't have a clue, around the sides are only partial diamonds, right? maybe it would be called "8.3628942517 on the bias over 1"

A. Spruce
MLB Construction wrote:

***, talk about throwing us a curve ball.......that's a good question and i don't have a clue, around the sides are only partial diamonds, right? maybe it would be called "8.3628942517 on the bias over 1"

You need to count the diamonds (let's assume 8 ) and then count the half diamonds and then the partial diamonds, which would be 8, 6 halves, and 4 quarters. This, of course, assumes computationally correct divisions of the pane into equal parts and portions thereof, otherwise, your calculation comes into play, but only after multiplying by the square root of pi.

Mastercarpentry

You always count the lights- all of them. The only exception I know of is stained glass. The variations are referred to by style but I've heard so many different names used that I can't begin to say what anything but a single light or prairie grid style is.

My favorites are the ones with 4 square over 4 rectangular underneath in the upper sash. I've heard it referred to as "Cathedral Style" but I've heard the same term used for similar windows which have arched tops in the lower panes. Those have a real 'W0W" factor but I'd hate to replace any panes in them.

BTW while this thread is hot, how many of you guys prefer the "glazing in a caulking tube" over the "DAP 33" type glazing compounds? I was thinking of that yesterday while I was installing several panes of glass during a light but utterly cold rain :p The tube stuff would have been much faster but I'm old fashioned.

Phil