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Ernie_Fergler
Tamper-resistant outlets

Today I received my monthly bill from Pennsylvania Power and Light.
The flyer they always include entitled "Connect" ran a story about tamper-resistant outlets. It stated "Tamper-resistant outlets have been so effective in preventing injuries that the 2008 NEC requires their instillation in all new homes".
Now that is one that slipped by me and more that a few COs as well.
Can anyone track that in the 08 NEC?

kentvw
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets

Yeah, it's new article 406.11 and says that receptacles in areas specified in 210.52 all 125-v 15-20 amp shall be listed tamper reistant receptacles.

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets
kentvw wrote:

Yeah, it's new article 406.11 and says that receptacles in areas specified in 210.52 all 125-v 15-20 amp shall be listed tamper reistant receptacles.

Thanks, I'll track all that down later.....

dc16
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets

There Are Alot Of New Changes In The 2008 Nec Code Book For Resedential The Tamper Proof Plugs In New Homes Is Just One Of Them. One Of The Big Changes That Will Effect Resdential Is That All Breakers That Are In The Panel Must Be Arc Fault Except For The Small Branch Kitchen Circuit.

mikefln
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets
dc16 wrote:

There Are Alot Of New Changes In The 2008 Nec Code Book For Resedential The Tamper Proof Plugs In New Homes Is Just One Of Them. One Of The Big Changes That Will Effect Resdential Is That All Breakers That Are In The Panel Must Be Arc Fault Except For The Small Branch Kitchen Circuit.

Most of these codes are nothing but product changes. I am willing to bet that manufactors pushed for these changes to sell higher priced items. The one I love the most is refridgators being GFI protected.

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets
mikefln wrote:

Most of these codes are nothing but product changes. I am willing to bet that manufactors pushed for these changes to sell higher priced items. The one I love the most is refridgators being GFI protected.

I never GFCI fridge outlets. To much at steak if it trips. I would rather use a single outlet.

canuk
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets
Ernie_Fergler wrote:

I never GFCI fridge outlets. To much at steak if it trips. I would rather use a single outlet.

Nice pun. :D

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets
canuk wrote:

Nice pun. :D

Just had to type it !!!
I am wondering about the GFCI instillation for the old Norges. That something we do not do in these parts....

mikefln
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets
Ernie_Fergler wrote:

I never GFCI fridge outlets. To much at steak if it trips. I would rather use a single outlet.

My understanding of the new code is that it has to be GFCI. I could be wrong I only looked over it breifly, but that was my understanding. But in PA they are not going to enfource the new code until 2010 anyways.

kentvw
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets

Yeah, that steak might thaw out! :D

kentvw
Re: Tamper-resistant outlets

Okay, back on topic regarding 2008 code changes to the NEC and GFCI's.

Yup, 210.8 changed quite a bit and many exceptions were removed.
Used to be you could have a receptacle for say a freezer in a garage or unfinished basement be non GFCI protected. That exception went away.

Interestingly enough receptacles in residential kitchens only receptacles used to serve the counter top need GFCI protection.
Turn the page to 210.12 for residential rooms requiring Arc-Fault protection and notice that kitchens are not listed.

This leaves refers and built-in appliances in residential kitchens not being required to have either GFCI or Arc-fault protection as I see it.

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