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Rhawn
Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

I picked up a metal exterior door from the local H4H surplus. Great door, unfortunately it came with very odd sized hinges with removable pins. I've looked all over locally and the web for replacement hinges. Nothing exists.

My option now is to replace the hinge pin with something non-removable. I can't seem to find an out of the box solution.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

ed21
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

Non removable pins are only needed when the door opens out. Hinges with non removable pins have a set screw that holds the pin in place that isn't accessible when the door is closed.
So if you can drill and tap a hole in the hinge body for a set screw in a location that you can't get to when the door is closed you're good. If you can find a hinge with a NRP you'll see exactly what to do.

A. Spruce
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

Not sure I'm following what the problem is, do you need to replace the hinge pins, hinges, or need NRP hinges? Regardless, try contacting a few door and millwork specialty companies in your area, if it's out there, they will be able to get it for you.

ordjen
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

If the issue is of security, the door can be made non-removalble after removal of the pins by a simple trick:
Screw simple wood screws into the jamb, leaving them extend out about 1/2 inch. Slowly close the door on the screws to where they make dents into the edge of the door. Now drill holes into the edge of the door in a depth to allow the screw head to enter the hole. With the screw into the hole, it will be impossible to swing the door outward even if the pins have been removed.

Mastercarpentry
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

NRP hinges are common for standard sizes, but if you've got something odd and can't use them, a welding shop can tack the pins into place for a few bucks. A simple option is to drive a long heavy screw into the jamb diagonally at the end of the pin, leaving it proud to cover it, then cut the screw head off. Done tight against the pin, it makes it hard to try pliers or vise-grips to remove it. If you ever want it out, pull the hinges and the vise-grips work fine. If you just want to prevent a crook's use of the door a heavy steel bar (or two) locked across it works well- even with the door gone the bars remain to impede movement.

Security is a system; everything needs to be at the same level of secure or they will get in through a weaker point.

Phil

Rhawn
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

Thank you so much for all the replies, I didn't see these till just now. My notifications of replies did not come through. Probably the comcast email I used.

Its a shed door that swings outward, so the hinge pin is exposed. A removable pin makes it a very easy job to get the door down. I've never had a break in, but I feel like this is just asking for it.

With that said, I really like some of the ideas, thanks for those.

I am going to attempt to drive a proper-fit, full-threaded machine screw through, replacing the hinge pin. once in place and working, I will cut off the head of the bolt. The threads biting into the hinge and lack of access should make it very hard to get out.

If not, I will get someone to weld a pin in there.

Thanks again, you guys rock. Next post coming up!

JLMCDANIEL
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

Go to any hardware or big box store and get a piece of rod the right diameter, peen one end and install then peen the other end.

Jack

ed21
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable

If somebody wants to break in, they will probably just put a pry bar to the lock.

Mastercarpentry
Re: Shed door- replace hinge pin with something non-removable
Rhawn wrote:

I am going to attempt to drive a proper-fit, full-threaded machine screw through, replacing the hinge pin

Don't try this- if the screw is tight enough to thread into the hinge it will not allow the hinge to move! It might work if you grind away the threads on the parts where the movable leaf resides but that's a lot of work compared to the other methods given here.

Phil

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