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keith3267
Re: selecting new toilet - American Standard, Gerber or Toto

druryd, "As an employee of American Standard" I have a question for you. I have two Champion 4 toilets. One started out as a Champion 3 but the outstanding customer service department at AS gave me an update flapper valve.

The toilet comes with some kind of coating to prevent the growth of bacteria. As a result, the toilets only occasionally need a quick brush to keep them looking new. My question: If stains or rings do eventually appear, will a normal cleanser damage this coating? Is there a recommended cleaner for this toilet bowl when a quick brushing is not enough? If you don't know of a safe cleaner to use, then you guys should consider formulating one, it would be another opportunity for you.

AndrewThePlumber
Re: selecting new toilet - American Standard, Gerber or Toto

Champion toilets from big retail stores come with what appears to be steel tank bolts which is very bad. The seat is very low grade thin plastic.

I have had problems with the early Champions and with the current Champion 4. Tank bolts loosen up over time, tank rocks over time. Web serch brings up lots of issues with it.

Instructions say don't over tighten but you have got to so to keep it from leaking.

I use TOTO and I install a lot of toilets. American Standard is not making them as good as they use too.

chloemariebenson
Re: selecting new toilet - American Standard, Gerber or Toto

Hello all! I know this forum is older BUT I'm hoping someone will see this and help me out! I am currently renovating my little home and need two SMALL toilets. My house (cottage) has minimal bathroom space and I need to know if American Standard is a good fit in small places, help!

dj1
Re: selecting new toilet - American Standard, Gerber or Toto
chloemariebenson wrote:

Hello all! I know this forum is older BUT I'm hoping someone will see this and help me out! I am currently renovating my little home and need two SMALL toilets. My house (cottage) has minimal bathroom space and I need to know if American Standard is a good fit in small places, help!

Take the toilet measurements and see for yourself it's going to fit in your compact space. We can't recommend, because we don't know how much space you have.

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