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calebdbaker1001
Numerous Concerns About my Old Home
calebdbaker1001

Hello everyone I've got some concerns about my house. It was built by National Homes, Inc. in the year 1957. #1 concern is when I push (using muscle) on my home's load bearing walls, they go outward to the other side and I don't know if that's because the manufactured homes have thin studs or just bad framing from the factory. To add, my gable walls are of 1x1's and they definitely move outward beside the window, it's obvious too. Some of the kitchen studs, some, go outward and some don't. The studs below my living room windows definitely, definitely go outward and way more obvious than my gable wall(s) do. My #2 concern is some of my interior walls move severely from the bottom too. I'm assuming that's because they were in manufactured panels and they couldn't take off the drywall to nail the panels to the concrete slab. My #3 concern is that some of my door trim is loose to where you can move it back and forth. I've felt nail pops and re-nailed that back in and they still move back and forth, maybe because there's no shims between them since my trim's the exact 1957 stuff. Thanks and hope to see some experts' comments.

ed21
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ed21

I can't say I've ever heard of a 1x1 being used in construction or even being sold.
What exactly do you mean by gable wall. Usually means the triangular shape attic end wall or wall on that side of the house.
Walls in general shouldn't bow easily or move. You mention walls on a slab so I assume this isn't a trailer. Manufactured housing I'm familiar with doesn't use panels with drywall on both sides. Any panels can be secured to a slab easily before the drywall is attached. Assuming concrete nails were used, maybe they rusted and no longer hold or were never driven in well.
The loose trim on the doors sounds like it was nailed into the gap between the jamb and the stud rough opening. Renail the trim so solid wood is hit.
From the sound of it you may have some work to do. Without actually inspecting the house, that's about all I can offer.

calebdbaker1001
Re: Numerous Concerns About my Old Home
calebdbaker1001

Yes, there are 1x1 wall panels in my prefabricated house. What I meant by panels were the interior side is covered with drywall and nailed, and the exterior side is covered with thin plywood and nailed. Both done at the factory site in Lafayette, Indiana. I can show you pictures of the 1x1 walls if you want to "see for yourself." I think it's totally hilarious why there's 1x1 walls in that house. Also, they didn't tend to fasten the walls to the concrete with the baseboard. I believe they 45 degree nailed it from a metal piece and was to provide so much "strength" wind couldn't blow it over at 70 MPH. I also forgot to tell that the most 2 sensitive 1x1 walls are the right side gable wall, the small room wall which isn't fastened one bit to concrete and is molded all over from a past flood in 2008, and a wall section for the closet which is overwhelmingly bowing to the other side, big time! Also, panels was the term because you could take them out of the truck and CARRY THEM to the slab foundation and set it up in 3-5 hours and you're done. I could post some videos of my concerned walls bowing outward if you'd like?

ed21
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ed21

I am familiar with premanufactured, panelized houses, but nothing like you describe.
It seems like rebuilding and repairing might be the way to go. Do you have any insulation in the walls?
You may have something more like mobile home construction. That I know nothing about.

A. Spruce
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A. Spruce

I'm having a very hard time believing what is being posted here. If this was a manufactured home, i.e., a trailer, as low as they are, even THEY have code standards. What is being described here isn't to any know building standard, not stick frame, not trailers, not modular, not prefab, nothing. And as BAD as some of these truly are, there is at least minimal standards that do provide a reasonably safe structure. And, I'm not buying a 1x1 framed wall as coming from any sort of manufacturer, I'm also not buying that such would be placed on a foundation or slab.

I do not believe that we're being provided with the whole story here. Maybe there is a manufacturer or builder of note for this house, however, more than likely, there have been additions or alterations made by some entity that was less than qualified to do so.

I would recommend the posting of pictures of what you're finding. You will need to host those pix with an ****** host, then link them here.

ed21
Re: Numerous Concerns About my Old Home
ed21

A quick on-line search found this
http://www.angieslist.com/articles/hoosier-made-prefab-homes-pose-unique-problems.htm
I find it hard to believe anybody used 1x1s for anything too. 2x2 or 2x3 sure.

Mastercarpentry
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Mastercarpentry

Don't know if they were around back then but you can buy 1 1/4" wide metal studs and track. It's meant only for non-bearing partition walls but without codes or an inspection anything goes. I've heard of but not seem wood interior walls studded with 1X6's turned flat then drywalled over. Knowing nothing of the manufacturer or their practices I can't say, but I wouldn't have a house with 2X2 exterior wall studs even if it were post and beam where they weren't carrying a load. My old 1960 model house trailer had more than that!

My advice here is to sell or bulldoze. If it's acting as bad as it's being described, it's not worth repairing.

Phil

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