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jpsmithny
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?

Looks to me like he didn't even install these correctly.

There seem to be big gaps around the edges looking at the outside.

And am I seeing the foam gasket around the edges?

In any case ,I know I'm seeing the expanding foam spray in one of the pics.

Fenster
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?

Thanks to all for the comments/suggestions.

Well, the contractor now understands that I am not happy with the current replacement windows and willing to pay to redo them. I just want to be sure that the 2nd time around we get better results.

He now recommends using wooden pocket windows which will supposedly give me an additional 2.5" of light (1.25 inches on each side). We will also install some interior trim so the jamb extensions aren't so noticeable.

Do these sound like reasonable fixes? Are there better ones?

Also, I didn't mention that I'm in a historic district so can't alter the exterior of the windows.

Fenster
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?
jpsmithny wrote:

Looks to me like he didn't even install these correctly.

There seem to be big gaps around the edges looking at the outside.

And am I seeing the foam gasket around the edges?

In any case ,I know I'm seeing the expanding foam spray in one of the pics.

Yes, I wondered about that yellow foam spray. Is that supposed to be invisible? As you can tell from my questions I am pretty clueless about this stuff, and I figured they were going to clean it up after...

Fenster
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?
Mastercarpentry wrote:

Two is that an experienced contractor would have noticed the stepped jamb, explained the options, and helped you choose- then he would have done the measuring to match that choice (even if you told him to measure differently)
Phil

And shouldn't our architect have picked up on this?!! Even when I called her to come and see how weird the replacement windows look she didn't figure out that it was a "stepped jamb" and thought the entire problem was due to mywanting to save the exterior trim...

Fenster
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?
Mastercarpentry wrote:

IMHO he's in over his head to not understand the need to maintain the original elegant trimwork including the reveal dimensions. He chose 'the easy way' in leaving the old frame and dropping in replacement style windows.

Phil

Phil, what are the "reveal dimensions'? Is that the actual size of the glass in the windows? How exactly do you maintain it when you are dealing with a stepped jamb? If it entails custom building the windows, I don't think I have the right contractor (or the budget) to do that...

JLMCDANIEL
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?

Fenster you had custom sized windows installed, they were made to fit. Your problem is that you hired a "window installer" who didn't know his a** from a hole in the ground. Any competent contractor could have fitted the windows properly, even if they had to remove and reinstall the trim. They may have even been able to just install new jamb liners and sashes.

Jack

Mastercarpentry
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?
Fenster wrote:

Phil, what are the "reveal dimensions'? Is that the actual size of the glass in the windows? How exactly do you maintain it when you are dealing with a stepped jamb? If it entails custom building the windows, I don't think I have the right contractor (or the budget) to do that...

What I am speaking of is the distance between the glass and the edges of the opening. With replacement windows you won't match the originals exactly, but someone could do better than this. Different window manufacturers have different minimum dimensions and a good contractor would know to not just take what the local guy offered unless it was a much closer match.

Phil

Mastercarpentry
Re: Managing an uneven window rough opening?
Fenster wrote:

And shouldn't our architect have picked up on this?!! Even when I called her to come and see how weird the replacement windows look she didn't figure out that it was a "stepped jamb" and thought the entire problem was due to my wanting to save the exterior trim...

That architect needs to be placed on the working end of a shovel till they can learn something obvious to anyone with more than two working brain cells: You're darn tooting that you wanted to save the exterior trim- what part of "Historical District" and "No exterior changes" did you not understand when this project began? Sheesh, I feel for ya man.....

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