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A. Spruce
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A. Spruce

Congratulations! :cool:

smarje1
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smarje1

Well we are now two weeks from the original close date and we still arent in yet. The bank who owned the house took their time getting the water turned on and dewinterizing the house so when they finally got to it they found several leaks that they are still fixing. now its looking like we wont close until at least the end of the month. Dealing with a bank owned property is very frustrating!

smarje1
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smarje1

Well we closed last week and have started the demo work. its tough putting in 9 or 10 hours at my regular job only to go home to put another 5 or 6 in at the house, but it will be worth it. i am sure i will have plenty of questions down the line but my first one is:
when i opened up the exterior walls, i found no insulation (wasnt really expecting any) but it looks like about an inch or inch and a half of cement or mortar in between the studs against the ouside wall. there is about 2" of stud showing. was this considered "insulation" back when the house was built? another question is what r value am i getting with an inch of cement? my original plan was to spray an inch of foam and then use rigid foam or batt insulation for the rest of the space but if the cement has sealed the wall i don't think i need to spray and i can just insulate like normal. What do you guys think?

A. Spruce
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A. Spruce

What you're describing sounds like "keying". Stucco and plaster needs to be able to grip something, that is the reason there is spaces or holes in the substrate. What are the interior and exterior wall surfaces made of and how thick are the wall cavities?

R-value? From what you describe, there would be none.

Sombreuil_mongrel
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Sombreuil_mongrel

What you're describing is called "back-plastering" a rough extra layer of lath and plaster inside the wall cavity. This was the old-time version of insulation and vermin control. It's in your way right now, but it's a sign of a well-made house.
If you want to remove it to insulate, no harm done.
S_M

A. Spruce
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A. Spruce
Sombreuil_mongrel wrote:

What you're describing is called "back-plastering" a rough extra layer of lath and plaster inside the wall cavity.

I stand corrected. :cool:

smarje1
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smarje1
Sombreuil_mongrel wrote:

What you're describing is called "back-plastering" a rough extra layer of lath and plaster inside the wall cavity. This was the old-time version of insulation and vermin control. It's in your way right now, but it's a sign of a well-made house.
If you want to remove it to insulate, no harm done.
S_M

Thanks guys. Would it be a good idea to remove it? It is still solid, i.e. not crumbling anywhere. i was originally going to spray an inch of foam to seal the house but this stuff seems pretty tight and i still have over 2 inches left for conventional insulation.
On another note, I was cleaning out the gutters tonight since we are supposed to get rain the next few days. The lower foot of one of my valleys is almost completely gone. the fascia is still good but it isnt attached to anything because the rafter tails have rotted away. just another project for the list.

I threw a couple pics in.

Sombreuil_mongrel
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Sombreuil_mongrel

I would plan on getting the roof done sooner rather than later. Water is silent but deadly to the structure.
S_M

smarje1
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smarje1

So i am getting a dumpster for this weekend and i still havent decided if i am going to take out the "back-plastering" or not. i checked it out and its only about 1/4" thick plaster with the lathe run vertically behind it. i am leaning towards pulling it out so i can better insulate the wall. i think i would rather pay the up front cost of 4 inches of insulation now than have higher utility bills every month. What does everyone think?

A. Spruce
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A. Spruce

Good insulation is never a bad idea.

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