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tean
kitchen cabinet painting

After reading through a myriad of websites & talking w/BMoore & SherwinWms people, I don't have a clear concensus on the best type of paint for longevity on kitchen cabinets; enamel, oil based, high gloss, etc. Also, has anyone used a liquid sander vs. TSP and sanding? I am having the doors stripped @a furniture restoration shop, but will have to do the cabinet faces myself. Any and All help is welcomed before I start this tedious modernizing of my varnished oak (in very good shape) cabinets. Thanks!

boardstretcher
Re: kitchen cabinet painting

Hi Tean - Some things you might consider even before the paint, etc: Do they get constant use, i.e do you have kids, do alot of cooking, etc.? Are you hardly ever in the kitchen? Those kinds of questions can help steer you to a paint and finish that will handle your needs.
Generally speaking, the higher the gloss, the tougher the finish and more washable the finish is. I've had very good luck with both latex and oil based enamels. You have to like shiny cabinets, thought. I've also had very good luck with semi-gloss as well. Latex tends to dry quickly. Try to paint in a cooler area and or you might need to add a Flotrol, or similar product to retard drying. Follow the directions closely when using paint additives. Too much ruins the pait's protective properties.
The key to the any successful paint job is preparation. If you try one of the dulling products like you are suggesting, make sure there is no leftover residue to affect the paint you decide to apply.
Hope this helps... you've picked one of the "less fun" projects to do in your home! With that said, turn it around and try to do the best job you can with the color and finish you want -- beacuse-- You don't ever want to have to do this again!! Good Luck!

Debra
Re: kitchen cabinet painting

What kind of doors do you have?

If you paint the doors and they are typical paneled doors you may end up with doors like mine:

This was done 2 years before I bought the house, then I've used the kitchen almost constantly for the last 2 years 9 months. Washing the cabinets every month has worn through the high gloss finish. This was the top of the line Sherwin Williams paint.

havanagranite
Re: kitchen cabinet painting

debby it looks to me like you have multiple problems with yours, in some of the pictures it looks like the paint was one single thin coat with out a primer. in picture 3 looks like a door mullion has been removed. but the cracks in the joints looks to me like the glue in the doors has dried out and is now allowing a little movement causing the crack.

Debra
Re: kitchen cabinet painting
havanagranite wrote:

debby it looks to me like you have multiple problems with yours, in some of the pictures it looks like the paint was one single thin coat with out a primer. in picture 3 looks like a door mullion has been removed. but the cracks in the joints looks to me like the glue in the doors has dried out and is now allowing a little movement causing the crack.

HG, The center mullion fell out during inspection. I keep putting off putting it back in. I have everything I need, but I keep thinking, I want to replace the "floor" in that cabinet anyway.

You're right, they did a fast and sloppy job readying this place for sale. In another post you'll see that they put in tile but it's uneven, the mortar is slopped all over the baseboards which they did not remove before laying the tile. They painted the rock and I can't get the paint off of it.

Instead of complaining I should have been fixing it but I have a torn rotator cuff so all I can do is watch the paint crack and chip around me.

Along the same lines as the original post, I have been thinking about replacing the doors. Since we're picture framers I've been thinking about using picture molding, and putting in stainless steel inserts instead of glass, then I toy with the same idea but using the existing door frames after they are stripped. Lots of ideas but no ability to do anything. such is life right now.

havanagranite
Re: kitchen cabinet painting
debbysewn wrote:

HG, The center mullion fell out during inspection. I keep putting off putting it back in. I have everything I need, but I keep thinking, I want to replace the "floor" in that cabinet anyway.

You're right, they did a fast and sloppy job readying this place for sale. In another post you'll see that they put in tile but it's uneven, the mortar is slopped all over the baseboards which they did not remove before laying the tile. They painted the rock and I can't get the paint off of it.

Instead of complaining I should have been fixing it but I have a torn rotator cuff so all I can do is watch the paint crack and chip around me.

Along the same lines as the original post, I have been thinking about replacing the doors. Since we're picture framers I've been thinking about using picture molding, and putting in stainless steel inserts instead of glass, then I toy with the same idea but using the existing door frames after they are stripped. Lots of ideas but no ability to do anything. such is life right now.

don't let it get you to overwhelmed, you alread have been doing a lot of work, cleaning the rocks installing shelving. just keep going the way you are pick one project at a time and do it as you can afford. you probally already can look back at your over 2 years of work and see an amazing difference. focus on what all you have accomplished not on what remains.:)

tean
Re: kitchen cabinet painting

Thanks for the info! I am, now, the lone user of the kitchen in my single family home, but want to make sure the paint is long-lasting(unlike what the sellers did to debbysewn's cabinets) for when the time comes I sell the house. Since BMoore has a self-priming paint, I will probably go w/that. I plan - operative word being plan - to glaze the cabinets after 2 coats of paint. Is it wise to finish the project w/a non-yellowing varnish regardless of whether or not I glaze? I can't help but thinking how protective the varnish would be, not to mention more work. Thanks

odd_artist
Re: kitchen cabinet painting

PAINT 'EM!
I painted my ugly cupboards about 6 months ago, and even with a sloppy hubby and careless teenager, and dog and a cat, they still look wonderful!
Check out the before and after pics. I spent 3 days sanding, priming and painting the doors and cupboards (inside and out!), another day letting them dry thoroughly while I tiled the ugly formica countertop (again-sanded well), and changed out sinks.
I totally revamped the whole kitchen for less than $100 by using yard sale tiles, a free stainless sink my neighbor was going to toss, and some thrift store steals. The only things I had to buy new were grout, sealant and adhesive. I found a great island that doubled my counter space and added some much-needed storage for a mere $40 on craigslist.com. And I love the way the spoon drawer pulls and cabinet handles that I had made a few months earlier look against the clean bright cupboards.
See what you can do if you re-use, re-purpose, and recycle?

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