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fleetwood
Re: Help!!! Plumbing emergency 9-1-1!!!!!!

Hi Jack,

Ryan was thinking about buying a random sander and doing the floors himself; then he got the idea to have it done by a professional. He may still end up buying the sander. We're not that far yet.

Thanks for the article. The comment at the bottom was sad, but true. All appliances and some crystal chandeliers and wall sconces are missing. An attempt was made to pry the two remaining fireplaces off the walls, but they must have been securely affixed, because they gave up. Now, pry marks and cracks are there and the fireplaces are loose.

Sadly, the whole place was a mess, from the grounds to the exterior of the house, to the interior. It reeked of neglect. It kind of reminded me of a fading grandeur, slowly crumbling and heading downhill. Luckily, it has been rescued by someone who loves it, and the house is on it's way back to splendor. . . . . but it's going to be a long haul. First and foremost, we still have that leak/ceiling mystery to solve.

Sincerely,

Donna

JLMCDANIEL
Re: Help!!! Plumbing emergency 9-1-1!!!!!!

Donna,
You might want to put an add in the paper. As I understand it the Mincy's bought the place and couldn't make the payments. They then began stripping it and selling off everything they could. The mortgage holder tried to stop them but apparently to no avail. There were some preservationists that were trying to buy some of the pieces to hold for a legitimate owner but I don't know how that worked out. I had heard that this wasn't the only place they bought and stripped.

The RO floor sander will cost about $2800 to buy plus supplies, you can rent them from a tool rental for about $250/week plus supplies. I like them because you can sand from edge to edge which means you don't need an edger like you do with a drum sander and the don't gouge the floor like a drum sander.
Jack

fleetwood
Re: Help!!! Plumbing emergency 9-1-1!!!!!!

Hi Jack,

In addition to not paying the mortgage for nearly 4 years, they didn't pay their property taxes for 4 years, either. When the bank bought it at the sheriff's auction, they had to pay $38,579 in back taxes, also. The property taxes are $9K per year, so you know the math. I don't know how they managed to live there for so long without paying their taxes or their mortgage. People who know how to work the system cost all of us money in the end. It's a sad state of the economy when things like this happen.

I will ask Margo at the Cincy Pres. Assoc. about the light fixtures; we certainly would love to buy them back, if possible. She might know. Also, once we meet some of the neighbors, they might know who bought the fixtures. Sadly, the LR chandelier is gone. I saw a photo of it, and it was splendid. The ad is a good idea; we can do that once we get moved.

Later!

Donna

JLMCDANIEL
Re: Help!!! Plumbing emergency 9-1-1!!!!!!

Donna,
Did a search on the web and found that Casimir patent for a bottle washing machine so besides being a soap and candle manufacturer is was also an inventor.

Maybe the tubes are part of a fire suppression system he was inventing, you know once burnt.....

I have the 3 pages of the patent in pdf form but can't attach because of file limitations on the forum. If you want a copy e-mailed to you just click on my username and send me an e-mail with where you want it sent. I can e-mail it to you or pop a printed copy in the mail if you prefer so you can add it to your mansion history file.
Jack

fleetwood
Re: Help!!! Plumbing emergency 9-1-1!!!!!!

Hi Jack,

I'd love to add Casimir Werk's patent details to my small file on the Werk Mansion. I can't figure out how to be able to send a private message, as I must have disabled that feature when I signed up. I tried to edit my profile and fix this, but I'm not sure if I did it correctly. Please click on my user name and see if you can send it to me privately. If not, please let me know, and I'll try again.

Thanks!

Donna

fleetwood
Re: Help!!! Plumbing emergency 9-1-1!!!!!! UPDATE

Hi to All,

I just got back from Cincinnati. While I was down there, Ryan got some info from a friend in Germany on the type of construction in the ceiling in the house. Armin is a contractor in Germany, and he did some research on the clay conduit (or terracotta pipes) in the ceiling. According to Armin, the conduit is for insulation between the floor and the ceiling below. Armin sent Ryan about 20 pages of faxes (in German) about this type of construction, and according to Armin, these clay conduit pipes are still used occasionally in new construction.

The conduit pipes are about 3.5 inches square and are laying side-by-side through the ceiling. It's great that we now know the purpose of the clay conduit, but that knowledge still hasn't helped us locate the ceiling leak. Ryan is in Cincy now, and tomorrow, Roto Rooter is coming to give an estimate for repairs. If they can find the leak, it will be more than the previous 3 plumbers were able to do.

I did go to the City of Cincinnati Building Development Center, and I got a copy of all building permits that have been issued on the house since 1983. There were 3 plumbing permits, all for work on the outside of the house, plus one permit issued for the fence in front of the house. That was it.

At some time, at least a portion of the plumbing pipes was updated, because we can see that at least one of the old galvanized pipes in the blue and yellow bathroom was changed to copper. Unfortunately, no building permit was ever issued for any plumbing work inside the house, so my idea to track down the plumber who worked in the blue and yellow bathroom has come to an abrupt halt. Big Bummer! I was hoping to find the previous plumber who worked in the house, and see if he remembered where the pipes are located - in the walls or in the floor, encased in concrete (or the tile mud that looks like concrete).

Please cross your fingers that Roto Rooter can find the leak tomorrow and begin the repairs.

Sincerely,

Donna

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