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mbr_rainman
GFI breaker to an outlet?

Have a one year old house that we had built with a whirlpool tub that is in somewhat of a different room from the true room with the sinks. Issue is there is no outlet in this bathtub room. The tub is on a circuit of its own and there is a GFI breaker that is the same size as a GFI outlet but it is not an outlet. This breaker is about 10 foot from the tub and my question is can I replace this breaker with a true GFI outlet to be used for something small like a night light?

Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

the last part of your question is not clear enough for me to reply. Is it a outlet on a GFI breaker that is 10' away? please restate your question.

mbr_rainman
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

Ok, I don't know what you call the item in the wall but imagine a true GFI outlet that has the test button and the reset button and the two outlets. Well this is the same item that has only the two buttons, no outlets so if the tub tripped, all I would have to do is to hit the reset button on the wall. This is what is about 10 ft from the tub but as I stated, this tub is on a circuit of its own from the panel box. This is where I want to take that devise out and replace it with a full GFI outlet.

kentvw
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

Yeah, not real clear on the terms you are using. Your tub falls under article 680 of the NEC as a Hydromassage bath tub and is required to have a GFCI protected receptacle no less than 6' and no more than 20' from the tub.
There are constraints for cord and plug connected equipment used in these areas.

Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

I sent you a e-mail with my phone number call me and maybe I can help you. I am still not sure what you have

kentvw
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

If I'm understanding correctly what you have is like the device on the far right.

If it's 10' away you should be fine with changing it to a GFCI type receptacle.

mbr_rainman
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

Yes, the far right is exactly what it is.

Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

If it is on a GFI circuit already then you could have some un wanted tripping. You also need to be careful to read how to hook it up. There is a line and load on the receptacle. Read the instructions carefully or your will not be GFI protected. This is around water which requiresGFI protection. and before I answered I wanted all info. As this could be a hugh shock hazzard. ending in death!

kentvw
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

Well then, there you go.

The NEC actually requires a GFCI type receptacle no less than 6' and no more than 20' from the hydro tub.
There are limits on fixed or stationary equipment but no limitations on portable cord and plug connected equipment in that area. A little plug-in type night light? Should be no problem.

A floor lamp over the tub for reading?........... Not a good idea.

kentvw
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

Ah, posting on top of each other............:)

I think the idea here, Raven, was for the wall GFCI trip unit to be accessable in case the tub tripped on Ground fault. But agree. Watch the line and load connections if it's replaced with a receptacle type GFCI.

mbr_rainman
Re: GFI breaker to an outlet?

Yeah, I actually do love my wife so I won't put a lamp over the tub for her:eek:
All she is asking for is a small plug in night light so she can see the toilet in the middle of the night. I like the idea because that way she doesn't turn on all the overhead lights that wake me up. I have wired GFI outlets before but just didn't know if I could replace this type. Thank you all for your help..

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