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JC
Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

Merry Christmas.

Seattle.

An odd time to post, but... there is this sound which I -swear- is a frog coming from under my house... been going on for -months... usually at night but often when it rains.

whikik..whikik.whikik

...periodically for 3-4 minutes at a stretch. Then it stops.

For months I swore it had to be some insect or mechanical noise or aliens, but it just sounds like those tiny spring frogs at the pond.

There's a sump pump under the house, so is it too looney an idea that the guy is over-wintering in 'the pond'?

If it's not a frog.... what the hell is it?

TIA,

---JC

A. Spruce
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)
suntower wrote:

been going on for -months... usually at night but often when it rains.

whikik..whikik.whikik

...periodically for 3-4 minutes at a stretch. Then it stops.

suntower wrote:

There's a sump pump under the house, so is it too looney an idea that the guy is over-wintering in 'the pond'?

If it's not a frog.... what the hell is it?

From your description it sounds like the sump pump is cycling.
1 - When it rains.
2 - At night - you probably only notice it at night because the ambient noise in and around the house is much lower at night.
3 - You hear it for 3 to 4 minutes at a time, very much like the normal operation of a sump pump, it will only run when triggered to do so and will run until the water has been ejected, depending on the size of the sump pit and the quantity of water, 3 to 4 minutes sounds about right.

What I would recommend you do is to find the discharge for the sump, then when you hear the noise, go check to see if there is water flowing. In lieu of that, find the pump and check it out when you hear the noise.

The only other way to figure out what and where it's at would be to stake out where you hear the noise and wait for it to come, then search until you find the source. Or, you could call Ghostbusters! ;):D

dj1
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

I don't think you have frogs...frogs would be noisy 24/7.
Spruce's explanation makes sense.

JC
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

Thanks. It's in the crawl space... by the time I'd get down there to hear it 'in action' it would probably be gone.

I'm wondering if this isn't a job for a cheap remote video camera I could hook up to my computer that's somewhat weatherproof?

Anyone know of something like that?

ALSO: If it -is- the sump pump, are they hard to replace? I mean... can I just 'plug n play' a replacement from some place like Lowes?

---JC

A. Spruce
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

You can tape a flashlight and pencil video camera to a radio controlled toy car to explore the underside of your house.

What I would recommend is to try to time the intervals of when you hear it, when you get a relatively accurate reading, then you'll know when to time going under the house to find the pump.

JC
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

Thanks again. I pretty much know -where- it's coming from. I just don't know where to get such a camera. And how much they cost. Any recommendations?

if it had a long enough cable I could just run it out one of the vents and up into my office (which is just above the sump pump).

Best,

---JC

A. Spruce
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

No recommendations.

JC
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

FWIW, this frog-like sound is....

A frog.

Apparently, these are indigenous frogs here in Seattle. They're in many backyards and in the local parks. Apparently, frogs here don't hibernate in winter.

The frog found a way to the sump pump.

The question is... is it worth worrying about? The rest of the basement is dry so it's not a 'moisture' issue.

IOW: do frogs spread 'disease' or plagues? :D

HoustonRemodeler
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

Last time I read the Bible, frogs were the plague and not the source but your local health dept will know what species is common to your area. There would have to be some sort of contact anyway.

If you want the frogs gone, a Jack Russell Terrier will do the trick with no need for you to crawl under there. You can often borrow one from the local Jack Russell rescue. I've lent out my jacks to rid neighbors of their rodents in attics and under homes before.

JC
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

I dunno. I've got schipperkes which are pretty good verminators.

But for some reason, they won't go for amphibians. They seem puzzled by 'em. :D

Cheers

Earl
Re: Frogs In Crawlspace? (Seattle)

JC - YOU DO HAVE FROGS (or toads?) UNDER YOUR HOUSE ! Don't waste your money on video surveillance suggested by these naysayers  to confirm what you hear with your own ears.

I have lived in a Boise Cascade double wide pre-manufactured home with a crawlspace in Smalltown, ID for the last 35 years.  We have enjoyed the loud serenading of frogs (or toads?) croaking in our crawlspace the entire time.  You don't need to have a degree in herpetology to recognize a frog (or toad ?) croaking right underneath your bedroom every night during the "croaking" season.  

I have never thought of ridding the frogs (or toads?) from the crawlspace, as they are known to eat other bugs and critters, and I can't thank them enough for their service. I will make a note to monitor when the frogs (or toads?) are most active down there, as they do not croak during the cold of winter (i.e.presently).

I have made a major effort to stop other critters from joining them, as we do get the occasional mouse down there.  I pulll at least (30) dead mice a year out of the crawlspace, and I need to secure the service entrance better.  I put up some blue styrofoam after the main "top cap" to the entrance, and recently added some remnant 6 x 6 x 6 lumber sections to put in front of the styrofoam, along with some glue traps. 

There is only the storage tank for the well, and the well vfd, and the salt-free water softener down there, so I don't really have to go down there for anything anymore.

We have been getting the odd mouse in the pantry still (~ 1 month in the winter) so I don't quite have the crawlspace buttoned up tight enough yet, but I think I am pretty close. Thank God for old-school wood Victor mouse traps and peanut butter - what a deadly combination for mice if you live in the country surrounded by fields.

I just pitched a mouse this morning - poor thing, he did not even get any peanut butter before expiring. I used to tweak the traps for a hair trigger, but apparently even the coarse factory default setting is good enough to catch the average mouse.

 

 

 

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