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A. Spruce
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
canuk wrote:

Now that is a true test --- make sure to have a stop watch to time how long it takes for the circuit to trip.;):D

I was once installing a hot tub and the homeowner had a work light clamped to the gutter overhead. Somehow the lamp got bumped and it fell into the full tub with half a dozen folks standing around it. Thankfully the GFI did its job and popped before anyone else did.

Just so we get this topic back on track, I wonder what would happen if you tossed a dishwasher into a hot tub ... :p

canuk
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
A. Spruce wrote:

Just so we get this topic back on track, I wonder what would happen if you tossed a dishwasher into a hot tub ... :p

Depends --- if she doesn't mind getting the hair wet ;)

A. Spruce
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI

:eek::eek: Boy are YOU going to be in trouble when she gets home! :eek::eek::D

canuk
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
A. Spruce wrote:

:eek::eek: Boy are YOU going to be in trouble when she gets home! :eek::eek::D

Too late for that.

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
canuk wrote:

Depends --- if she doesn't mind getting the hair wet ;)

That may be the best answer to a question ever posted on the forum. :D

jvande7471
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI

Is it possible the DW has a built-in GFCI circuit? Connecting two in series tends to cause problems like this.

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
jvande7471 wrote:

Is it possible the DW has a built-in GFCI circuit? Connecting two in series tends to cause problems like this.

Connecting anything in series would tend to cause mucho problemos, methinks. Back to your query, I have never seen a DW with a pre-installed GFCI. But they sure could be out there.
Some have posted that connecting a GFCI to another GFCI can cause problems. {Something else I have never found a reason to do}. But doing that will cause problems? :D

jvande7471
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
deadshort wrote:

Possible I guess.......... Can you post an example of any manufactured dishwasher with a built-in GFCI?

No, I was guessing. Just sounded like a possibility. I don't look into DWs, so don't know what the latest is. Throwing out ideas. Thought one of the old-timers... err... seasoned vetrans might see that and go "Ahhh!! That's it!" Figured the next step in the evolution of appliances would be to pre-install GFCI rather than require a GFCI circuit. Then again, that would cause issues with retrofitting to an already supplied GFCI circuit.

John

jvande7471
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
Ernie_Fergler wrote:

Connecting anything in series would tend to cause mucho problemos, methinks. Back to your query, I have never seen a DW with a pre-installed GFCI. But they sure could be out there.
Some have posted that connecting a GFCI to another GFCI can cause problems. {Something else I have never found a reason to do}. But doing that will cause problems? :D

I didn't mean "in series". Bad wording on my part. Really meant two GFCI devices on the same circuit. My understanding is that they can sort of fight with each other, and cause one or the other to trip.

I can see this happening with a homeowner who thinks his kitchen isn't protected and installs a GFCI outlet, when it was actually protected from a GFCI outlet installed in the garage. From reading other posts regarding circuit requirements for kitchens, this sounds like it won't meet code today, but apparently it did at one time. Makes it a pain to find when you trip it.

John

Ernie_Fergler
Re: Dishwasher on GFCI
jvande7471 wrote:

I didn't mean "in series". Bad wording on my part. Really meant two GFCI devices on the same circuit. My understanding is that they can sort of fight with each other, and cause one or the other to trip.

I can see this happening with a homeowner who thinks his kitchen isn't protected and installs a GFCI outlet, when it was actually protected from a GFCI outlet installed in the garage. From reading other posts regarding circuit requirements for kitchens, this sounds like it won't meet code today, but apparently it did at one time. Makes it a pain to find when you trip it.

John

Methinks that is what you were trying to post, a GFCI followed by a GFCI. :) Posters on board mention that doing that will cause issues down the road. One of the few things I have yet to stumble across, but then again tomorrow is a new day.:D

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