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jokcoen
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

It might be that the wiring in your home may be faulty. Perhaps there is too much voltage coming into the electrical sockets? Many of these CFLs require much less input than others.

Also, as for the LEDs, yes they are not as bright but they can actually be bought for ridiculously cheap.

Brookworld
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs
jokcoen wrote:

It might be that the wiring in your home may be faulty. Perhaps there is too much voltage coming into the electrical sockets? Many of these CFLs require much less input than others.

Also, as for the LEDs, yes they are not as bright but they can actually be bought for ridiculously cheap.

(1) Voltage -- Virginia Dominion Electric pushes voltage to me. It's been hot here beginning May so I would expect the voltgae to go DOWN during the summer month sor in high demand times. I have an old Radio Shack multi-meter that I'll try, but the rate of CFL burn out would have resukt for say 10% over-voltgae.

(2) I can buy LED flashlights real cheap in job lot type stores, but the bulb replacements are still 4-5X CFL, but they seem to use 1/4 of energy of CFL which are already efficient.

motoguy128
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

Any follow-up on this? I replaced nearly all the non-dimmable, not ornamental light bulbs in my 1925 house with CFL's and 1 LED. I've not had any problems. Some fo the bulbs were even "used" since I took all my CFL's with me when I moved from our last house.

I mainly did it to both reduce cooling demands in summer and reduce electrical load on older light fixtures and wiring.

Brookworld
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs
motoguy128 wrote:

Any follow-up on this? I replaced nearly all the non-dimmable, not ornamental light bulbs in my 1925 house with CFL's and 1 LED. I've not had any problems. Some fo the bulbs were even "used" since I took all my CFL's with me when I moved from our last house.

I mainly did it to both reduce cooling demands in summer and reduce electrical load on older light fixtures and wiring.

My batch of 24 bulbs continues to burn out while my Home Depot one is still lighting. Given that, I'm not spending my Sundays in football season cleaning fixtures in the possibility that voltage or resistence is too high. The retailer refunded the price (I paid for return postage which was $37 nicely packed). Basically, I assume this was just a bad product and have gone to Home Depot bulbs and settled for a 5000k color (instaed of 4100k) -- I just didn't think 16 bulbs could burn out after 2 months of service.

Like you, I started using CFL years ago to reduce load on old wiring systems and reduce heat byproduct -- I also liked the cool white so much better than warm white at night, and now with 3500 & 5000 available, I use incandecent & halogan only as a last resort like quick on/off duty.

It took a Chinese company to cheaply & efficiently make the circular glass for CFL's, plus the power company rebates. I used to pay $15 for 1 CFL 15 years ago. LED's will also get cheap when the Chinese gain efficiencies; look at what they're doing with solar panels. I'm not finding good prices for LED yet (except the $3 mini-flashlights) and the light output is still too low (plus I don't like warm white which is actually light yellow).

With CFL, don't believe that high price is high quality - - I think there's 2-3 manufacturers making key components for ALL brands and I don't see evidence of one lasting longer than another -- with something like tires, what you pay is what you get and don't want blowouts at 65mph.

farmer52
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

That's because CFL's are a real dumb, commie idea. Stick with real light bulbs. Although LED's have some potential. Let's get the cost of those down & see. The CFL's are a soon to be thing of the past.

motoguy128
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs
farmer52 wrote:

That's because CFL's are a real dumb, commie idea. Stick with real light bulbs. Although LED's have some potential. Let's get the cost of those down & see. The CFL's are a soon to be thing of the past.

The CFL in my lamp post out front saves me $20/year. ( It's cost <$5... meaning in 3 months, It's already paid for itself. How is that dumb?

THe incandescent bulbs generate so much waste heat, that the sconce 2' away from the thermostat is or living room affects the thermostat. I replaced those 1 bulb with a CFL's and the problem was solved.

Now on some open and historic fixtures where you want a clear bulb I like the look of incandescent better. LED"s should catch-up soon for that application.

Brookworld
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

It's the commies who are manufacturing CFL's and LED's . . . leave it up them to get the price down. Except for $3 mini flashlights, never seen a full size LED bulb (like a PAR 30/40) for less than $25 . . . and those LED "60 watt" equivalents put out half of the lumens as halogen or CFL.

sparky1
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

check the packaging on the CFLs. You will notice many of them are designed to be installed in a base down position.. this allows the heat to disapte away from the ballast. However most of us (me included) use them in the wrong application. not saying that is YOUR problem, but worth checkin into..

Brookworld
Re: Burning Through A Lot of Compact Fluorescent Bulbs
sparky1 wrote:

check the packaging on the CFLs. You will notice many of them are designed to be installed in a base down position.. this allows the heat to disapte away from the ballast.

I read about this years ago. CFL definitely don't like enclosed fixtures (I've done it so it jist means they last only about 1/2 the hours).

No, these are PAR40 which is specifically recessed (base up) lighting. The fact that a Home Depot CFL hasn't burned out tells me that the other brand (Maxim) that is burning out is the problem -- twenty-one (21) have burned out over 6 months. The HD ones are OK.
When I wrote the original post, I just couldn't believe 8 had burned out. Now that I switched to another brand (HD), the problem appears to be going away as it should (8,000 hours life). These are $9 each (they charge more for 3500K & 5000K colors; 2700K go for about $5 and lower when the utilities give a subsidy).

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