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mandp523
building new entryway and outside door

Hello,
We live in a very old home, built 1863. The back door was added in 1880, and opens up (after 2 1/2 ft square landing) to steps going down to cellar, and also up 3 steps (to right of screen door) going up to laundry room (was original kitchen). There is just a screen door at this back door. Since the 3 steps going up are in the way (they are a little in front of screen door), we can't put an inside back door there, and we are thinking of going out from the existing screen door instead. What we think is the best way is to extend the back opening a little, add a slanted roof over the new entryway, and add a new screen door and inside door. We do not want to extend the entry very much because there is a wooden deck to the left (outside) of the screen door. Does this seem workable? We are just starting on the thinking of how to add an inside door, and would really value opinions on if this is feasible to do something like this!
Thank you, Maggie

JLMCDANIEL
Re: building new entryway and outside door

Maggie, you have a very convoluted set up, perhaps if you could post some pictures or drawings to make it a little clearer.
Jack

mandp523
Re: building new entryway and outside door

Hello,
Thank you so much for responding!
I am enclosing 2 pictures. One is the inside and steps to the left in the picture (I was standing on the basement steps looking up). The other is the outside of the door with the deck and deck steps on the left. Please let me know if you would like some more explanation or pictures!
Thank you, Maggie

JLMCDANIEL
Re: building new entryway and outside door

I don't have exact meassurements but because your landing is so small I would sugest you build out to the steps and put the door 90 degrees to where it is. see below. The red would be the addition.

Jack

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mandp523
Re: building new entryway and outside door

So the outside door would be right beside the deck steps? So, coming up the walk, one can either go inside or go up the deck steps? I had never thought of this way! I will tell my husband what you have suggested, and see what he thinks! One drawback is that the hose spigot will be right behind the doorway. (It comes out of the wall to the left of the existing door - it is under the deck to the left of the door.) Of course, we could do something so that any water leaking from the spigot would not go towards the new wall. I'll let you know what he thinks!
Thank you, Maggie

JLMCDANIEL
Re: building new entryway and outside door

The other thing I noticed is that the treads on the steps look very wide. it may be possible to build new steps that meet code and end before the door frame. With that it's going to be a tght wing with only a 32 " platform.
Jack

mandp523
Re: building new entryway and outside door

Hi,
We have looked at various options, and am thinking that if we round the steps off a little just so the inside door could open, that that would be the best way at this time. We mentioned possibly needing an inside door to a friend, and he has an extra one - 32 inches wide! He is bringing it over today. We will need to build an inside door frame, and I'm not sure how to do that. But, my husband may know plus I will check at TOH to see if it is on there!
I will let you know how it all turns out!:)
Thank you!

mandp523
Re: building new entryway and outside door

Hello,
I'm afraid this won't work. We have a deck that the outside door would be up against all of the time. It's not too hard to not open up the outside screen door all of the way, but a wood door would be in the way if it was open all of the time.
My friend brought the inside door over earlier today. It is the right size! And, it sits in the door opening that is already there! Yeah! Now all we have to do is figure out about the bottom step - it looks like it is just a wood frame step. However, we will see when getting into it! My husband has an idea as to how to get into it. At least, I hope he does!
Thank you, Maggie

mandp523
Re: building new entryway and outside door

Hello,
I'm sorry, I did not get all of your post! I just got a response that you had posted again!
I am going to show my husband what you said, and see what he says.
Thank you, Maggie

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mandp523
Re: building new entryway and outside door

Hello,
Well, much progress is being made! A friend had an older door, so my husband put up hinges, and we now have a door! Then, since the step was in the way, husband sawed the step just enough for the door to swing. We have a carpet on the step, and it hangs down over the cut! The support for the step was cut a little, and husband just moved the cut support back under the still existing part of the step! We have support! So, we have a door that hangs and swings! Today I have primed the door, and have painted one side. Tonight it may be dry enough for me to paint the other side (or will wait until tomorrow). Then, we will buy a knob, a deadbolt, and my husband will install them. And, our door will be about done! We will have to put down a little flooring (about 1x3 inches) which the step used to cover. And, a little linoleum over that (will check on scraps at the hardware store). But, it is just about done! Thank you to so many people who gave their input on how to do this! We couldn't have done it without TOH!

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