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A. Spruce
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A. Spruce
goldhiller wrote:

How's about we all chip in and buy Walt one of these?

http://www.mafelltoolstore.com/fsg240ktwcis.html

Why don't we all chip in for a keg, then sit and watch Walt have kittens over the price! I'm envisioning lot's of head spinning and green vomit! :D

waltdeckhouse
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waltdeckhouse

So I am thinking whoever buys this sort of tool is either completely clueless OR extremely knowledgeable and has very speicalized work in mind. Or a collector. Either way it would be great if you guys get it sent directly to my house. I will take care of the price of shipping if you guys pick up the rest :cool:

I am happy to say I did not spend anywhere near that sort of coin on my aluminum guide thingee. I bought the clamp n guide which i sorta liked. I then decided i needed something better to do the melamine for the concrete molds. that is where I got the idea of buying the more elaborate setup. it came with a sole plate that has zero clearance. i thought this would work good to keep the coating on the board from slintering. it did work ok for that. but anything thicker or harder would cause the saw to bind. i attached some pics of the guides and the sled thingee. i don't remember spending a lot of money...or maybe i just want to forget...after seeing how simple GH's guide is

waltdeckhouse
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waltdeckhouse

Hi All,

GH..the vinegar thing worked well on removing the mortar haze. Now I would like to go around the chimney and clean everything up. I have noticed a lot of holes in the chimney...some with lead anchors in them. Do you have any ideas how to get those things out? Also...how do you patch up holes in brick? Patching the mortar seems easy enough. But matching the brick color seems difficult.

Also...i removed the fireplace opening cover cause DW wants to use something less brass looking. I noticed that the floor of the firebox has some concrete broken out. Can I patch these holes using just regular old concrete? One of the holes is shallow...right near the hottest spot. could that be patched with mortar? any special tricks? Also...does anyone have opinions on whether using a front with glass actually helps reduce heat loss? The previous unit had vents up and below the glass so I don't know that the glass does much more than prevent things from coming out of the firebox.

One last thing....seeing as i am cleaning things up. FOr cleaning the flue...do you jsut hire someone for that? Seems like a might dirty job. The flue is not terrible...jsut some deposits around the sides. I have heard stories of flues being nearly closed due to deposits. Nothing near that bad in this case.

Debra
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Debra
waltdeckhouse wrote:

One last thing....seeing as i am cleaning things up. FOr cleaning the flue...do you jsut hire someone for that? Seems like a might dirty job. The flue is not terrible...jsut some deposits around the sides.

Yep just pull up www.yellowpages.com and look for a chimney sweep. They'll lay out drop cloths and stuff and make quick work of getting the whole shebang all spic and span for ya.

waltdeckhouse
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waltdeckhouse

I was wondering what others might think of this problem. DW and I are putting up a mantle above the fireplace. I am trying to figure out how to mount the mantle to the brick. I was thinking of cutting a wide slot in the back of the mantle. Then secure a piece of wood to the brick that is the width of the slot. Push the mantle onto the slot and put screw in from below to hold the mantle to the piece anchored to the wood. any thought?

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goldhiller
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goldhiller

Hey Walt,

Sorry to be so long getting back to ya.

I am not a fireplace pro and so everything I say should be taken with a shovelful of salt. I have a friend who is certified to do all this kinda stuff and does it for a living, but he isn't around right now. Gone south for the winter this year. :)

I'm thinking that if you're going to try a patch of the fireplace floor, one of these products might be the way to go.
http://www.rutland.com/maintenance_html/mortar_cements_bricks.html Such as the dry mix or the refractory cement. Surface will need to be dang clean though. ...and a little acid etching would be in order to ensure a better bond.

And/or you might consider laying a heavy piece of metal over the floor in addition. Like 1/4" or 3/8" thick.

But if you're going to hire a chimney sweep to clean that puppy, he should know better than I what approaches to the repair would be best. And hiring someone to clean that chimney is what I would suggest in this instance. It can get dang dirty in a mighty big hurry if you don't know how to properly contain what's going to come down the chimney at ya. I don't think you want to find out what you should have done........right there in your living room. :eek: There are better places to learn. And.......you really kinda need a specialized type of vac with super tight filtration to clean things up after the fact.........and not end up spreading it around instead.

If those are hollow lead anchors in the brick, they are likely a two piece device. Split down the middle. Or they could be one piece. Shouldn't matter all that much. If split....you *might* be able to play around with needle-nose pliers and get them to come out. Or......you should be able take a pointy tool like a punch or tip of a old screwdriver and smack the very outer lip in toward the center in a couple opposing places.........in effect collapsing the things and then remove 'em.

Hmmmmm. How to patch the holes? Don't. Remove the bricks instead and replace with a new ones. You already know how to do that. ;) That way you don't have to wrestle the anchors out either.

Seriously though......I'm not sure what would work the best. There are some polyurethane caulks that are available in many colors. Might be one close enough.

Or......find and buy some epoxy putty sticks that will be either white or a very light color when kneaded together. Then quickly mix in a colorant so it matches your brick. Artist's colors in oil would likely work so long as you don't add too much. Or some universal colorants might be better. There are all manner of powdered masonry dyes available (try brick supply house or ready-mix plant), but no sure how small of a packet you can get.

If you have a brick/masonry supply house nearby, I'd suggest contacting them or going down yourself. they might have what you need right on the shelf....both for the floor repair and the holes patching.

And/or ask your chimney sweep. He's in the biz and has most likely dealt with hole patching and matching before.

How long and wide for that mantle? Is it gonna turn the corner like in the pic? I suppose you want to appear floating, huh? (Can't you ever do anything the easy way? :D )

waltdeckhouse
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waltdeckhouse

GH,

Thanks for the tips on the chimney. Maybe I will wait until the sweep guy comes around and maybe he can address all my problems. we are installing a new front on the fireplace...DW does not like the standard glass front that was there. We are going back to just a chain curtain. It should look good with the new mantel.

Do the mantel in some easy fashion? :eek: What RU nuts!? :D Why do things in a day when you can stretch them out for weeks? The mantel is 80" long and sticks out from the brick about 5-6". We are planning on it being about 2.25" thick, laminated mahogony (from 4/4 pieces) The mantel is going to wrap around the corner to the post (the same one I am wrapping in mahogony) It is supposed to look like it is floating...like the hearth. I was thinking of mounting a cleat to the brick and then cutting a slot in the mantel that would attach to that cleat. I am not sure how thick or tall to make the cleat...in order for it to be strong enough. I suspect it will not take a lot to make a fairly strong connection. Maybe I should make the slot have a taper (on the top edge) and do the reverse on the cleat...so there is component that is pushing the mantel towards the brick due to the weight of the mantel. Any thoughts?

-W

goldhiller
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goldhiller

Any thoughts?

Yes.....but most of them are unfit to post here. :D

Oh,........you mean about the mantle. :o

Yes to that also, but don't have time right now to hammer them out of the keyboard. Gotta head back to the shop. Will try to throw some your way within a couple days.

A. Spruce
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A. Spruce

When I built this one, I attached cleats to the walls then nailed through the mantel skirt and legs (legs were separate pieces ) into the cleats. As I recall, I was able to screw the cleats to the wall framing. The weight of the mantle sat on the existing brick, the cleats held it in place.

Sorry, this is the only picture I have of it.

waltdeckhouse
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waltdeckhouse

Thanks for the discussion.Obviously I have a lot to think about. I planned on making the mantle out of a built up box. The $ cost of solid mahogony is too high...so I will use cheaper materials inside. I need to start laminating pieces together this week.

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