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canuk
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
Lloyd wrote:

Canuk,
Thats the best schematic I ever saw, curious tho, is that written on a napkin?

NEC wrote:

What? Looks CAD all the way. :D

LOL -------- naw doing it in a hurry free hand with the mouse ------ besides didn't want it too sophisticated for a sparky to follow. :D:p:D

NEC
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
canuk wrote:

LOL -------- naw doing it in a hurry free hand with the mouse ------ besides didn't want it too sophisticated for a sparky to follow. :D:p:D

Actually, Canuk, your drawing makes much more sense than Jacks. Yours could be wired NEC legal. Unfortunately, Jacks poor, twisted, deranged, nonsensical attempt can not.... But, yes it will work.

canuk
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights

To me it isn't a matter of whether or not it makes more sense ------ rather to illustrate Jack's point. While reading the dicussions and understanding where everyone was coming from, I agreed with Jack's assesment that while one traveller was energized and the other wasn't ---- no return.
The illustration is easy to vizualize ----- probably a throw back from my days working with ladder diagrams setting up automated controls --- a truth table of sorts.

Besides ---- you know I can't comment directly regarding NEC stuff ;)

JLMCDANIEL
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
NEC wrote:

Actually, Canuk, your drawing makes much more sense than Jacks. Yours could be wired NEC legal. Unfortunately, Jacks poor, twisted, deranged, nonsensical attempt can not.... But, yes it will work.

It will not only work but it does meet NEC.
Jack

NEC
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights

Once the traveler is energized it is a return. The second three way is a mute point.

canuk
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
canuk wrote:

one traveller was energized and the other wasn't ---- no return.
;)

NEC wrote:

Once the traveler is energized it is a return. .

Yep agreed .... I guess it wasn't presented clearly.

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The second three way is a mute point

But then and again so would the second traveller that wasn't energized be a moot point.;)

NEC
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
canuk wrote:

Yep agreed .... I guess it wasn't presented clearly.

But then and again so would the second traveller that wasn't energized be a moot point.;)

Ah, caught on speelling yett again...........

It would be moot if it was never energized..... But then what would be the point of having the three way?

canuk
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
NEC wrote:

Ah, caught on speelling yett again...........
LOL ..... far be it for me to pick on that ..... people in glass houses and all that:D

It would be moot if it was never energized..... But then what would be the point of having the three way?

Yep ..... precisely ..... then and again ....why are we here ? ;)

NEC
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
canuk wrote:

Yep ..... precisely ..... then and again ....why are we here ? ;)

??? We are here for three ways?

I did not think this was that kind of site. Sorry my friend but I like females and if it is like ordering at McDonalds I'll take two blondes no older than 25. You get a happy meal and a small shake.:D:p

JLMCDANIEL
Re: 3 way switch multiple lights
NEC wrote:

Once the traveler is energized it is a return. The second three way is a mute point.

And yet you agreed that "1 diagram says use 12/2 from the panel to the first switch, 12/3 from switch to first light, 2 - 12/2 cables from first light to each additional, then 12/3 from last light to last 3 way switch." Show me how you can connect without using a remarked white wire.
Jack

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